From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Tue Jul 4 05:17:15 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA24996 for footbag-outgoing; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 05:17:15 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: (qmail 3711 invoked from network); 29 Jun 2000 19:04:10 -0000 Received: from lax-ts3-h1-43-126.ispmodems.net (HELO fpgcswgi) ([209.162.43.126]) (envelope-sender ) by mail012.mail.onemain.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 29 Jun 2000 19:04:10 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Scott Cleere" To: Subject: [footbag] "history of takraw and the future of footbag net.. Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:10:06 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <200006291950.MAA04513@list.footbag.org> Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org PT Lovern wrote: "And for all those old school people out there change is a good thing." Glad to see the discussion pick up again. Just a little clarification, change is good, I didn't want to suggest that things should stay the same. I like PT's concrete suggestions. I agree with you on the plane foul, it is very dangerous. Uniforms jazz up the apperance tremendously. Team names are another great way to generate fan participation. Change is good. The sport has changed and progressed dramatically in the past 20 years and it will change and progress in the next 20 years... AND where we are at is an amazing accomplishment professionally and athletically. There is a great article in the May or June issue of Tennis. The article is about what the satellite circut is all about (players ranked 300th or below) and the trials they face. Using a bigger or standard footbag or ball may "officialize" the sport, takraw was a sport for years before they made the balls out of plastic. It's difficult to know what will make the footbag net "accepted, credible and professional", for some people it already is, for some it has a long way to go and for some... Scott Cleere From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Tue Jul 4 05:21:12 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA25025 for footbag-outgoing; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 05:21:12 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.48]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA24695 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 15:43:49 -0700 Received: from default ([12.78.216.171]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with SMTP id <20000629224307.FXPF3646.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@default>; Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:43:07 +0000 From: "Bob Riefer" To: "Steve Dusablon" , Subject: Re: [footbag] 2 and a half cents Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 06:51:53 -0400 Message-ID: <01bfe281$342ebcc0$abd84e0c@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Steve Dusablon wrote: > All sports are hard to learn, that is the point. True enough. However, all major sports have pee wee or little leagues that facilitate the learning of that sport. Basketball uses a lower hoop and smaller ball at first, baseball uses 'T's that hold the ball in a stationary position etc... Just because most of footbag's net players begin playing at an age where in other sports they would not need these simplifications, does not mean that simplifications are necessarily a bad idea. I don't really lean one way or the other-- I see merit in changing the ball etc. or in leaving it the same. However, to develope newer players, it might not be a bad idea to start with an easier ball in novice and intermediate, and make the ball as it is now the be all end all when you eventually are good enough to go open. Thus our open players would not change their ways, but newer players would have a little bit of an easier time being beginners. Thanks! Bob Riefer From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Tue Jul 4 05:21:13 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA25030 for footbag-outgoing; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 05:21:13 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f From: Ted Huff Received: from imo-r19.mx.aol.com (imo-r19.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.73]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA09986 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 07:23:53 -0700 Received: from Thehuff1@aol.com by imo-r19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v27.10.) id z.17.7a3f54e (4244); Sat, 1 Jul 2000 10:23:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <17.7a3f54e.268f58d2@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 10:23:14 EDT Subject: Re: [footbag] The history of Sepak Takraw could help the future of Footbag Net To: PTLOVERN@aol.com CC: footbag@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 110 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Why is it that Footbag Net has to be associated at all with Takraw? It never was patterned after it in the first place, so why pretend or imagine that it needs to be now? The facts are that the rules, object & style are all different, and the game/sport of Footbag is merely about 23 years old from it's beginnings in Oregon ,U.S.A. , not southeast asia. Also, I'll bet that in those short years from the first attempt to have a footbag net tournament in 1977, over an 8 foot high net, Footbag Net has grown more in popularity worldwide, than takraw has ever thought of !! That's a testament to the whole appeal of the game of footbag ! So why not leave the discussion to just how does the sport version of the Footbag game can be improved? The fact is that if the IFC set a standard for the bag used in net play, to a higher standard than currently in the rules book, and then sanctioned certain designs/manufacturer's to make them, and let this be a yearly bid process, there would never need to be a discussion of a ball for this bag game. Then the idea of using a novelty , machine made ball for this sport's bag-net-game would go away. IF a manufacturer had the opportunity to make a standardized footbag net bag, and the sewers of this design could gain their own form of recognition by that process, I'll bet that sponsorship support would follow. Maybe the current maker's of the Hacky Sack brand would wake up and see what a market they could finally get behind marketing!! Or Flying Clipper could again set the standard, with product they already have !! Tennis is good example of a net game that has class indoors or outdoors, but has greater appeal to players & spectators outdoors, despite the fact that it leaves mother nature as part of the equation. So what if the grass court has a few lumps, and there is a slight breeze, so no as there is no rain??!! Uniforms would be great for spectators & sponsors, but it needs to start first with clubs !! Ted Huff From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Tue Jul 4 05:21:15 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA25035 for footbag-outgoing; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 05:21:15 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f From: Jim Cobb Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05350 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:28:36 -0700 Message-Id: <200007032328.QAA05350@Market.NET> Received: from JCobbjim@aol.com by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v27.10.) id z.fb.7e08055 (5711) for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 19:28:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web51.aolmail.aol.com (web51.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.12]) by air-id04.mx.aol.com (v75.19) with ESMTP; Mon, 03 Jul 2000 19:28:31 -0400 Date: Mon Jul 03 19:28:31 2000 Subject: [footbag] freestyle frisbee championships footbag tourney july 29 30 To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org friends, I have received four responses from people wanting to participate in the footbag tourney with the freestyle frisbee folks as hosts to be held at Green Lake Park in Seattle, WA, USA on July 29th and 30th. They have asked for a head count. We don't have one. Anyone can come play at the tourney for $10 without amenities, but there will be only 15 slots for the $35 entry fee with amenities. After July 5th these slots will be first come first serve on Sat July 29th at Greenlake park. thanks, later, Jim Cobb From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Sat Jul 8 22:52:21 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA09863 for footbag-outgoing; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 22:52:21 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from c014.sfo.cp.net (c014-h022.c014.sfo.cp.net [209.228.12.86]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA28234 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 04:06:57 -0700 Received: (cpmta 5288 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2000 03:37:14 -0700 Received: from 3ff877e5.dsl.flashcom.net (HELO ul2ju) (63.248.119.229) by smtp.flashcom.net with SMTP; 8 Jul 2000 03:37:14 -0700 X-Sent: 8 Jul 2000 10:37:14 GMT From: "Mike Stoler" To: Subject: [footbag] Extra Hotel Room for Worlds - first come, first serve Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 03:40:48 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Hello Happy Footbaggers. Sadly, I will not be able to make it out to Worlds this year as planned. But, your loss is..., I mean, my loss is your gain. I reserved a room at the host hotel (Plaza 500) for Worlds. I will be away on vacation beginning right now for a week. When I get back, I'd like to cancel the room reservation. If you want to pick up this reservation, please let me know. Kick on, Rex From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Sat Jul 8 22:58:51 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA09895 for footbag-outgoing; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 22:58:51 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from itsa.ucsf.edu (itsa.ucsf.edu [128.218.95.21]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04424 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 15:48:50 -0700 Received: from localhost (sjani@localhost) by itsa.ucsf.edu (AIX4.3/UCB 8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA74636 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 15:19:29 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 15:19:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Sunil Jani To: footbag@footbag.org Subject: [footbag] 250 FREE www.footbag.org cards In-Reply-To: <39662509.A39E68FF@davisbrody.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org To all who want to help promote footbag: This needs to be told to all footbagger, not just freestylers (sorry for the redundancy, shredders)... Some freestylers were talking about how to get more awareness of footbag sports, especially from people who take interest from watching us play. Matt Cross was talking about having business cards made that say www.footbag.org. Dan Klokow notified us that we can eacg get 250 free promotional business cards at the following link: >http://www.staplespromo.easiest.com/order/index.cfm Simply design them to say www.footbag.org (and Bruce Dole mentioned that you can get layout #2 with a soccer ball logo... see page 5 under hobbies and rec... it'll make sense when you visit the site). You might also consider including your @footbag.org email address (if you are interested in playing/coaching the interested party). This way, you can give a card to the slack-jawed onlookers watching you shred/spike/dig/bust. Bruce Dole signed off with a quote we should all take to heart: "DO IT!!!! DO IT NOW!!!!! " -Arnold Schwarzenegger -Sunil S. Jani From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Wed Jul 12 16:32:47 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA23408 for footbag-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:32:47 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from loom.online.ee (loom.online.ee [194.106.96.5]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA21366 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 14:57:05 -0700 Received: (qmail 17657 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2000 23:27:32 +0200 Received: from hi2-231.dyn.online.ee (HELO kasutaja) (194.106.113.231) by loom.online.ee with SMTP; 11 Jul 2000 23:27:32 +0200 Message-ID: <000c01bfeb76$8a296460$e7716ac2@kasutaja> From: "Uve Poom" To: Subject: [footbag] Promotional ideas Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 21:23:15 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Hi promoters, What we have been doing here in Estonia is a flyer. It is an old thing, but maybe ours looks a little different than the others. Let me describe it: The size of the flyer is on third of A4. On the top of it there¥s a really cool picture of a guy hitting a clipper (drawn), you can see the pic at www.hot.ee/footbag, it appears on the first opening page (the site itself is in Estonian so you probably wont understand the text) Then there's Footbag written in a large font under the picture. and then you can read www.footbag.org and www.hot.ee/footbag and finally there are some of the basic tricks names and descriptions. I think that the picture makes the flyer more attractive. They are spreaded in "trendier" shops in the city, so a lot of young people can reach them. And of someone buys a footbag he also gets the flyer. I know that this really works because there are more visitors on the mentioned homepage Maybe someone could let us know what sort of flyers have you designed and spreaded. Another thing that just happended in Estonia is that a story about footbag was published in the biggest youngsters magazine around. It happended four days ago so I the effect is starting to take place. I hope it¥s huge!!! :) just about it. Uve [Editor's comment: the how-to-promote footbag messages are the result of moving a previous discussion on the freestyle list onto the general footbag list. So that's why it seems out of context. There may be others as well. Thanks. -Steve] From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Sat Jul 15 20:43:06 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA05200 for footbag-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 2000 20:43:06 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from web205.mail.yahoo.com (web205.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.105]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA13526 for ; Sat, 15 Jul 2000 10:25:18 -0700 Received: (qmail 9235 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Jul 2000 16:55:54 -0000 Message-ID: <20000715165554.9234.qmail@web205.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.111.146.131] by web205.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 15 Jul 2000 09:55:54 PDT Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 09:55:54 -0700 (PDT) From: John Leys Subject: [footbag] Doubles Partner at Worlds To: footbag@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Hey all you Doubles Net Players! My Doubles Net Partner has recently been taken out of action due to a knee injury :( No more "Daaaahhhh" 's to be heard sailing through the tournament breeze. No more victims to be indiscriminately annihilated by his "mouse-trap". I am writing to the list as a way of finding out if anyone out there is still on the prowl. If you are, or know of someone who is, please let me know. I will also be at the US Open in Portland immediately before Worlds. Thanks, John From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Tue Jul 18 18:53:26 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA16320 for footbag-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 18:53:26 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from zeus.ihermes.com (zeus.ihermes.com [206.180.207.1]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA30471 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 08:42:29 -0700 Received: from 206.180.204.224 (204-224.ihermes.com [206.180.204.224]) by zeus.ihermes.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e6IFD5d29156 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2000 08:13:05 -0700 Message-ID: <397412AA.4ECF@intouch.bc.ca> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 08:17:50 +0000 From: James Holkko X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: footbag@footbag.org Subject: [footbag] A Calling For Golf Holes-Worlds 2000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Hi Folks, Need golf holes. -Stop Can anyone bring theirs? -Stop Please let me know. -Don't Stop:) I will need to know very soon. If you say you can, I will be depending on your decision. Soon- there will be a map, some images of the beautiful course at Jericho beach. Thank you, James (Acting Golf Director-Worlds 2000) Please Send Info. To: aloe@intouch.bc.ca From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Thu Jul 20 02:48:14 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA21822 for footbag-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jul 2000 02:48:14 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from infinitytoys.com (user-33qtk05.dialup.mindspring.com [199.174.208.5]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03294; Wed, 19 Jul 2000 16:59:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <397615CE.F137F2D3@infinitytoys.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 13:55:42 -0700 From: Kurt Sonderegger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR MIME-Version: 1.0 To: footbag@footbag.org Subject: [footbag] Sepak Takraw and Footbag growth References: <17.7a3f54e.268f58d2@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Dear Footbag Family: I follow the goings on in footbag via this list serve and have enjoyed the recent discussion of footbag's popularity ( or lack thereof as some see it) as well as the comparison of footbag net to sepak takraw. FYI: i was one of the people responsible for introducing sepak takraw to the USA ... starting in 1989. I formed a company called Buka Sports and helped promote the sport as well as introduce the line of takraw balls ... some designed especially for the US Market. Sepak Takraw grew out of the circle takraw game ( much like footbag circles) sometime in early 1900's - many believe that it was after seeing the "farang" missionaries playing volleyball. ( for a complete history, go to http://www.sepaktakraw.com/istaf/game/index.htm ) The sport really took off after the rules became standardized and boomed internationally after the Ball became standardized in the early 1990's ..... before that time, people used the rattan balls... which varied in weight, shape and feel. Some things in footbag net are still a bit perplexing to me... such as the history of rule changes. Today's game is a very high skill game. Some rules were adopted to stop certain people from completely dominating the game ( i.e. Kenny Shultz using his knee) but may have had a negative impact such as making the sport too difficult for novices. It is my opinion that by making the sport a little easier... i.e. upper body contact ( head, knee, back for blocking etc), larger bag/ball and definitely a standardized bag/ball, the sport could become more accessible and more marketable. A larger bag/ball has many advantages... 1. It would be easier for novices to play 2. It would be easier to see when viewed from afar.. . opening this up for large venues and tv One final note while on the topic of growth of the sport; footbag freestyle is definitely growing by leaps and bounds... I keep meeting people from all around the country who can pull off 3 and 4 add moves. In order to capitalize on this, some thinking regarding the freestyle competition might be advisable. Currently, the top players are also the people responsible for shaping the rules and regulations. Big add moves dominate the day... while choreography and overall presentation of a routine seem to have taken a back seat. It you really would like to make this a "spectator sport" - you need to think of marketability vs. a venue to show off raw skills. Figure skating and gymnastics are two freestyle sports that come to mind. In figure skating, skaters have compulsory moves and must "flow" gracefully with a lot of weight going to presentation. They don't go out on the ice and simply see how many "big add" moves they can string together.......... the reason for this is simple.... they value presentation over pure skill because that is what sells ( tv ratings, etc) ... which are needed to bring money and sponsors to the table. I am very happy to read about the progress being made in Europe with footbag ( at long last) and hope that competitive footbag worldwide can continue to grow. Keep shredding....., Kurt Sonderegger From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Mon Jul 24 17:14:00 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA06476 for footbag-outgoing; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:14:00 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f From: Kendall KIC Received: from KendallKIC@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v27.12.) id z.90.77db8d1 (14377); Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:44:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <90.77db8d1.26ada23e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:44:30 EDT Subject: [footbag] Footbag Hall of Fame Silent Auction To: footbag@list.footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 14 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Greetings Worlds Competitors, If you attended the 1997 Footbag Hall of Fame Induction Dinner you will recall the popular silent auction fundraiser. Well, it is going to strike again at the 2000 Worlds Footbag Hall of Fame Awards Dinner at Mavericks, at the Plaza of Nations (see the Worlds home page for details). 50% of proceeds will go to BC Special Olympics and 50% to Worlds 2001. I have managed to gather a set of Footbag World Magazines (bizarrely enough there is only one magazine missing from the set which is Vol. 1, Issue 2 with my husband Kenny Shults on the cover) including the Fall 1982 and July 1983 Kickers Quarterly magazines to put on the auction block. If anyone can bring the missing magazine to complete the set I would be grateful and even purchase your beverages of choice at the dinner. This is a unique opportunity to pass on collectible footbag memorabilia and raise funds for two very good causes. Please consider digging up and dusting off some old footbag items to contribute to the auction. Items can be brought to Worlds and turned in or mailed ahead to Juliet. Please send any questions directly to me. And thanks in advance for your support of the World Footbag Championships and Special Olympics. Kendall KIC From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Tue Jul 25 01:33:57 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA08220 for footbag-outgoing; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 01:33:57 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from web116.yahoomail.com (web116.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.89]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA26448 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:49:11 -0700 Received: (qmail 6139 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Jul 2000 23:19:50 -0000 Message-ID: <20000724231950.6138.qmail@web116.yahoomail.com> Received: from [206.172.162.84] by web116.yahoomail.com; Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:19:50 PDT Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 16:19:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Sayers Subject: [footbag] wheres the fall & winter events? To: footbag@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Just a message to remind you tournament holders to remember to post your footbag events plenty in advance for the upcoming fall & winter. It's not too far away. -JEFF S.