From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Thu Feb 1 14:01:02 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA26153 for footbag-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:01:02 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from smtp2.knology.net (user-24-214-63-12.knology.net [24.214.63.12]) by market.llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA07612 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:53:51 -0800 Received: (qmail 12988 invoked by uid 1003); 1 Feb 2001 21:56:16 -0000 Received: from user-24-214-85-170.knology.net (HELO oemcomputer) (24.214.85.170) by user-24-214-63-12.knology.net with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 21:56:16 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01c08c99$49001140$aa55d618@knology.net> From: "Ben Scarborough" To: Subject: [footbag] The South will rise again Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 16:52:34 -0500 Organization: Augusta Footbag MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Hello Everyone, My name is Ben Scarborough, I am 24 and in Augusta Georgia. I have been kicking a footbag actively for a year and a half. My club is Augusta Footbag. AUgusta Footbag (AF) is me and my two brotheres and whoever else shows up. In the past couple weeks we have had good turnouts, eight people and seven people. I am an active user of footbag.org. The wealth of information available therein has made my life better. It makes me sad too. I see that there are tournaments all over, all the time and I wonder, Why are there no tournaments in The South? I understand The South , in general, is less progressive or more slowly paced than other geographic areas; however I also know that The South has a nice streak a mile wide which could make The South an ideal place to bolster footbag appreciation. If you look at the the nation in the form of various markets for the promotion of footbag, The South is a largely untapped market. It is a market waiting to be tapped. People here like to enjoy themselves. Disc Golf is huge, with three courses in 15 minutes of my house. I believe footbag could be huge too. If you are here in Georgia and you want to help me muster up the troops send me a personal email. Even if you are any where in The South or have information the would help me out email me and lets start setting up a Southern Region. I think a jam to bring together hackers first would be great, tournaments can come later. Keep on Kicking, Ben Scarborough Augusta Footbag nogginmonster@knology.net From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Thu Feb 1 15:15:18 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA26687 for footbag-outgoing; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:15:18 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from bkb01-ims-01.ikon.com (bkb01-ims-01.ikon.com [205.145.1.251]) by market.llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10711 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:00:39 -0800 Received: by bkb01-ims-01.ikon.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 18:01:31 -0500 Message-ID: <1FC5532D6B96D411874200D0B782DA8847806A@phl01-msx-04.ikon.org> From: "Bob Riefer" To: footbag@footbag.org Subject: Re: [footbag] The South will rise again Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 18:01:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Ben Scarborough wrote: >It makes me sad too. I see >that there are >tournaments all over, all the time and I wonder, Why are there no >tournaments in The South? I know you'll get a ton of replies on this, and I'm not saying anything new, but hey.. here goes anyhow! The way I look at it, there are tournaments all over the country because there are people all over the country holding tournaments. Mundane statement? Well, not really... Tournaments, and jams, and anything of this nature, are held by real people like you, or like your brothers, or like me, or Steve G... All it takes to have a tournament is to hold one... I just wish more people had your desire to actually do it. PROPS TO EVERYONE HOLDING EVENTS THESE DAYS!!!! Hip Hip Hooooooray!!! Motto: If you hold it they (players) will come (in varying numbers depending on circumstances.. see below). >The South has a nice streak a mile wide which could >make The South >an ideal place to bolster footbag appreciation. Good attitude to start with!! :) >Even if you are any where in The South or have >information the would help me out email me and lets start setting up a >Southern Region. A couple pointers (I'm only really qualified to give you these couple easy ones): 1) Realize that everyone that's ever held a tournament had to once hold their *first* tournament. It's daunting the first time, but you'll be surprised how well you do. Just plow ahead, and you'll be able to coax things to fall in place more than likely. 2) Realize that having a site for your event and a time for your event are the two (or at least among the top) most important things you can secure. If you have a place and a time, and you let everyone know this information, you are halfway to holding a tournament and 90% of the way to holding a jam. 3) Getting at least one top level player to say they'll come (and to give you permission to broadcast this fact to other players) will help you to entice more players of all levels to come. General observation: Attendance is a weird thing in footbag events. Example - Steve holds Western's and usually gets a huge turnout, but was below that usual number this year. Why? Not really sure.. But that's not the point. The point is that attendance is really hard to predict. Generally, if you are well known in the footbag scene (you've been to a lot of tournaments, you've helped out at those tournaments, you're a top player etc..) attendance at your event will be higher. This is not always true though. For sure though, if you're not as well known, it will likely hurt your attendance -- THIS IS NOT TO DISCOURAGE YOU, but rather is to prepare you. For a first time event you need to decide what you are trying to accomplish.. are you going for a blow out media fenzy (unlikely), a medium sized "for the players" event, a Jam shred session, some combination? I'd say start somewhere small to medium and work your way up, but that might just be me. All in all, whatever type fo event you have, you will be proud of what you've accomplished afterwards, and will likely remember the event fondly. OK, that's about it. There is much advice that you can get (look at the event listing, and shoot a couple emails to some recent tournament directors for more advice perhaps) concerning getting sponsors, printing t-shirts, player packs, tournament formats on and on and on.. For your first event though, just worry mostly about having a nice place to play, with a good group of players, and you will be set. Shutting up now. Bob Riefer Philly Footworks From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Sat Feb 3 19:58:37 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01542 for footbag-outgoing; Sat, 3 Feb 2001 19:58:37 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (f222.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.222]) by market.llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA00323 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 21:22:31 -0800 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 21:21:54 -0800 Received: from 205.188.196.23 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 03 Feb 2001 05:21:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [205.188.196.23] From: "Bryan Fournier" To: edwin_veltman@wlcmail.com, footbag@footbag.org Subject: Re: [footbag] Footbag net sighting at Superbowl? Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 21:21:54 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Feb 2001 05:21:54.0684 (UTC) FILETIME=[38B263C0:01C08DA1] Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org >From: Edwin Veltman > >I heard from a co-worker that a commercial that aired during the Superbowl >featured a few seconds of Footbag Net. >Did anyone see this? I think I know what you're talking about, and it was the most insanely awesome sports montage i've ever seen...It was a reebok commercial, but it didn't show footbag net, it was a guy doing a takraw spike. Rad nonetheless...But takraw during the superbowl? We're through the looking glass here people...:) ~Bryan From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Tue Feb 6 14:38:28 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA17848 for footbag-outgoing; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:38:28 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by market.llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA13389 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:23:39 -0800 Received: from 66-44-87-57.s565.tnt3.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.87.57] helo=assistant) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 14QGWJ-00018h-00 for footbag@footbag.org; Tue, 06 Feb 2001 17:23:32 -0500 Message-ID: <073601c0908a$308b5c60$f0aefea9@assistant> From: "Matt Quint" To: Subject: [footbag] Brooks Beast Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:14:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Hey All, Well, my ancient N-Destructs have been way way way past their prime for quite a while, and I knew I was going to need new net shoes this year. I finally stumbled upon my first pair of Brooks Beasts ('99s) this weekend (they just don't carry a good variety of shoes in stores in DC). They fit wonderfully, except they were a size too big, so I decided to do some web hunting for a pair this week. There is a new 2001 model out which looks like it might not be as 'perfectly' flat on the outsides and insides, so I recommend that anyone with a fondness for these shoes try to get the remaining 2000 pairs. I found a VERY good deal at http://www.marathonsports1.com/indexorderform.htm - only $79.00, shipping included!!!! Call them up to get the price and check for size availability. All the best folks, Matt Quint DC Allstars From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Wed Feb 14 14:53:01 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA10095 for footbag-outgoing; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:53:01 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by market.llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA24630 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:31:25 -0800 Received: (qmail 28648 invoked by uid 0); 8 Feb 2001 19:30:46 -0000 Received: from du-042-224.access.de.clara.net (HELO quarktasche) (213.221.65.224) by mail.gmx.net (mail06) with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 19:30:46 -0000 Message-ID: <004201c09205$4e61d4e0$e041ddd5@quarktasche> From: "Matthias Lino Schmidt" To: Subject: [footbag] Report: 1st Hungarian Footbag Contest in Budapest Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 20:26:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Ladies and Gentlemen, I'd like to share my memory of the last weekend with all of you. Though it was not announced on the mailing list some of you might have seen the event entry on fw announcing the first ever Hungarian footbag competition. I read this entry in the middle of January and instantly started to plan my trip and tried to convince others to come with me. In the end, I had to notice that there was only one more person willing to make the trip, so Jakob Wagner and I got into the bus on Friday evening and arrived in Budapest on Saturday at 11.45 AM. We were picked up by the tournament organizer, Bogo Tamas (Hungarians say family name first), and Jan Struz from Prague, aka Dexter, a few minutes later. At first we went to the site of the competition, the "Lucia Laura Cafe", situated right in the center of Budapest. Now you might wonder why a cafe was chosen for this event, the special architecture of the cafe could explain it. It has something like a light yard in the middle that is covered by a parasol. So the stage for the competition was this yard, which is surrounded by glass walls, enabling the view into the cafe and out of it into the yard. This led to some objections, since I thought the player could feel like in a glass cage, but in the end this problem was removed by letting the doors open and having some people sitting inside the glass cage. But a different problem occurred: Playing in a yard can be *very* hard when its about 0ƒC! Furthermore, the owner of the cafe did not want the preliminaries to take place th! ere, so they were moved to a soccer field being 200 meters distant. All the time I was wondering where all the players, that were promised to us, could be, after arriving at this soccer field I knew it: There were about 100 people kicking, ignoring the cold temperature, under some floodlights just giving a minimum of light (it was already past dusk). They were accompanied by two DJs on three turntables, so despite the cold and darkness there was a great atmosphere. Most of them know footbag for less than one year, so the level of skills is quite low and limited to every circle kicker's abilities like simple stalls, (flying) clipper kicks or upper body stalls. We three tourists now just wanted to start playing, so we chose a place close to one spotlight and started shredding as good as it got. While we were playing in this circle, more and more people gathered around us, until everyone had stopped playing and was watching us! All of them were seeing some more advanced freestyle for the first time in their life, so they were quickly impressed and exalted. The speaker took the mic and announced us as "professionals from Berlin and Prague" and the crowd was cheering even for every easy butterfly combo. We played about 10 minutes like this, absolutely unprepared for a public demonstration and restricted by the conditions. Dexter still hit his massive legbeater, I managed to hit blurriest and surprisingly we did not get nervous. After this, the first rounds were to start, beginning with women's freestyle. All the 4 competitors did their best, mostly kicking, two girls could do basic stalls, but they were all somehow doing a good job. A! s far as I can measure it, none of them was older than 16. Then the men's freestyle did start, there was a total of 16 competitors in 4 pools. I thought there should be much more, since there were a lot more people playing, but these were the only ones daring to compete. The "routines" of those people showed me how footbag can look like when it has developed autonomously, they were all just doing things they did *not* get from videos or some online movelist, just the popular tricks among circle kickers. As the last event there was doubles freestyle, which was maybe the most unprofessional of all, for they all thought doubles was about the same as circle kicking. But still some of them did some nice cooperations and harmonized together. Finally, we could move inside for the final rounds, giving the bones a chance to defrost and reach old statuses of flexibility. The cafe had become quite crowded in the meantime, there was a good atmosphere for a final round. Unluckily, two players of men's freestyle had left (I don't know why...), so we were only 6 in this final group. First the locals Tom (the tournament's director's nickname), Csallo (know him from the mailing list?) and Mate started, then the guests Jakob, me and Dexter. We played somehow affected by the past hours of shredding in the cold and the warm wine (!) we got for judging, only Dexter suddenly hit all the things he had missed in the previous rounds and did a really good routine. So the results of men's freestyle are as follows (& as I remember): 1. Jan Struz, Prague 2. Matthias Schmidt, Berlin 3. Jakob Wagner, Berlin 4. Mate ???, Budapest 5. Tamas Bogo, Budapest 6. Gergo Csallo, Budapest These results are only for your information and NOT official, ask the tournament director about the official results of all rounds. I cannot remember the results of women's or doubles freestyle so you will not find them here. After this final round I (and I guess some others, too) was really happy to get out of my Lavers and into some trousers and a pullover, but when I just came back from the car, having brought my shoes and stuff away, we went to a separate room inside the cafe where the DJ was showing his skills, the real party chamber. When I entered this room, I was wondering why all the lights were on (quite unusual for a party, isn't it?), but the simple answer was: This party was a footbag party!!! All the people in this room were not mainly dancing as they were supposed to do, no, they were kickin' the bag! So I went back, got my Lavers again and joined one of the circles there. There were about 15 people in a small room of maybe 20 square meters, all obviously enjoying footbag to the max and preferring it rather than dancing on a party. This was really great, though some incidents happened, like the footbag dropping two times on the turntable, the needle scratching the record and one dr! unken guy smashing himself onto the floor while playing. At midnight, this shreddin' party found its end, some people new friends and I my cap nevermore. Footbag in Hungary is in its *very* early days. But the seeds for a growing and improving community of players are sown! Nearly everyone you kick with there can already do some stalls and most of them do have got good bag control and "the feeling". There are very creative people, since they don't have any model to copy, they invent moves on their own. So watch out, America! ;o) Your Eastern Europe Correspondent , Matthias Lino Schmidt. P.S. My cognitions of this weekend: 1. Circle kicking is the basis of footbag and earns respect! 2. DON'T DO SELF-SERVING! From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Wed Feb 14 14:54:11 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA10101 for footbag-outgoing; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:54:11 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from web1303.mail.yahoo.com (web1303.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.153]) by market.llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA30080 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 08:56:42 -0800 Received: (qmail 500 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Feb 2001 16:56:35 -0000 Message-ID: <20010209165635.499.qmail@web1303.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.0.224.35] by web1303.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 09 Feb 2001 08:56:35 PST Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 08:56:35 -0800 (PST) From: Jane Jones Reply-To: janejones2000@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [footbag] Footbag net sighting at Superbowl? To: footbag@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Just thought I'd throw this one out there... Click to see Reebok Anthem Commercial @ http://www.adcritic.com/ One frame looks like maybe net? it could just be a takraw shot where the ball looks small because it's so high up. But then right after, there is definitely a cool takraw shot of two guys in the air at the net. See ya, Jane From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Wed Feb 14 14:54:17 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA10106 for footbag-outgoing; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:54:17 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from foundationcomputing.net (IDENT:root@donorport.org [207.160.174.56]) by market.llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA03330 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 07:29:05 -0800 Received: from [4.3.96.201] ([4.3.96.201] verified) by foundationcomputing.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3.2) with ESMTP id 437138 for footbag@footbag.org; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 09:24:22 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 09:34:15 -0600 Subject: [footbag] Promotional Reminder From: Derrick Fogle To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org After hearing about all the recent footbag video clipoids being sighted in commercials and stuff, I wanted to remind kickers about the idea of sending a freestyle video to your favorite band of you styling to their tunes. The original idea was to capture and send a dropless performance to the recording artists, but this could be expanded to sending video clips to other organizations that might be interested. If you do, you should consider usage rights and licensing implications. Lets let everyone know there are plenty of good kickers out there! -Derrick "The Funky Chicken" Fogle -Still studying at the Old School Footbag University From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Wed Feb 14 18:49:17 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA10809 for footbag-outgoing; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:49:17 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from webmail.mscd.edu ("port 3663"@webmail.mscd.edu [147.153.1.20]) by clem.mscd.edu (PMDF V6.0-24 #46115) with ESMTP id <0G8R00FP7VINJE@clem.mscd.edu> for footbag@footbag.org; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:18:23 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:10:32 -0700 From: Brad Kaplan Subject: RE: [footbag] Promotional Reminder To: footbag Message-id: <3A518912@webmail.mscd.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.61 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-WebMail-UserID: kaplanb X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002971 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org >===== Original Message From Derrick Fogle ===== >the idea of sending >a freestyle video to your favorite band of you styling to their tunes. The >original idea was to capture and send a dropless performance to the >recording artists, but this could be expanded to sending video clips to >other organizations that might be interested. That's such a great idea. Something that I had considered was sending footage of myself to Gatorade or Powerade or any of those sports drink companies. I just felt like I didn't have the right look or an advanced enough game, not to mention poor video editing skills. To add to my excuses I felt as though maybe freestyle wasn't intense enough in immediate appearance, but Net I think certainly is. And I SUCK at Net. Another cool idea is to put videos on Public Access Channels. I know Eli has copyrights on "Aggressive Grounds" and that would be an awesome one to get on TV. Bye, Brad From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Wed Feb 14 20:46:54 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA10996 for footbag-outgoing; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:46:54 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from web1306.mail.yahoo.com (web1306.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.156]) by market.llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA16084 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:35:18 -0800 Received: (qmail 6711 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Feb 2001 04:35:08 -0000 Message-ID: <20010215043508.6710.qmail@web1306.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.30.145.205] by web1306.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:35:08 PST Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:35:08 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Windsor Subject: [footbag] Ride to Colorado Shred Symposium from Cali? To: footbag@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Hi list. I already posted this message to the freestyle list like a week ago, but it doestn't seem to be working, so i hope im not to late. I was wondering if anyone from the southern/central california area was driving or needed a ride to the Colorado Shred symposium. I can drive, but I would like some passengers to share driving expenses. I would be willing to pay for gas if someone can give me a ride. I really want to make it to the shred symposium, but i am low on the fundage due to my latest relocations to San Diego. Anybody interested please respond to this message immediately or call 909-301-6282. Thank you very much. Eric Windsor P.S. I'll try not to debate too much about gyro/paradox in the car :p JK. From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Sun Feb 18 17:46:35 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA24540 for footbag-outgoing; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:46:35 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from web4602.mail.yahoo.com (web4602.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.105.157]) by market.llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA29958 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:08:13 -0800 Message-ID: <20010219010806.18136.qmail@web4602.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [203.97.2.242] by web4602.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:08:06 PST Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:08:06 -0800 (PST) From: John Kingi Subject: [footbag] RE: [freestyle] Atomic sets. To: freestyle@footbag.org In-Reply-To: <48A772923645D411B54100D0B765CC215C59A2@INETSRV> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Hey there shredders. Chris wrote: > > > I, personally, do atomic sets with my calf. I > think ..... >--- Adrian Dick wrote: > I reckon Hippy style gives you more time coz there > is less dex motion and.... I tend to agree with Adrian on Atomic sets. When I first started learning this set I used to dex with my calf and it kind of threw me off balance and hurt my hip a bit too. Once I started dexing with my thigh, the movement became more comfortable and gave me more time to plant, gather my balance and move into the next element of the move. About a week ago I hit my first Ducking Atomic move, Ducking Atom Smasher. I know if I tried dexing the set with my calf I'd tear my hip out. Having said that, Don't think, Cris, that I'm "Dis'ing" your set, It just comes down to preference and what works for you. Later. Johnny (Redeemer) From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Sun Feb 18 17:51:45 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA24558 for footbag-outgoing; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:51:45 -0800 Received: from market.llic.net (sql.market.net [209.125.90.21]) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA24555 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:51:44 -0800 Received: from llic.net (llic.net [209.125.90.2]) by market.llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA32215 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:47:45 -0800 Received: from [209.125.90.60] (vpn-24-16-30-195.corp.home.net [24.16.30.195]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA10366 for ; Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:47:39 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: llic.net: Host vpn-24-16-30-195.corp.home.net [24.16.30.195] claimed to be [209.125.90.60] Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: brat@209.125.90.21 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010219010806.18136.qmail@web4602.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010219010806.18136.qmail@web4602.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:47:08 -0800 To: footbag@footbag.org From: Steve Goldberg Subject: Re: [footbag] RE: [freestyle] Atomic sets. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Sorry everyone... Posting John's message to footbag@footbag.org was my mistake. Please ignore it. It was s'posed to go to freestyle. Thanks. Steve From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Thu Feb 22 07:23:12 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA04461 for footbag-outgoing; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:23:12 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f From: Ted Huff Received: from imo-r10.mx.aol.com (imo-r10.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.10]) by market.llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27824 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 07:11:40 -0800 Received: from Thehuff1@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id z.16.92544ef (4203) for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:10:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <16.92544ef.27c685f4@aol.com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:10:44 EST Subject: [footbag] Update: 2001 nominations for Footbag Hall of Fame To: footbag@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 114 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Dear friends of the game and sport of Footbag, Based on the announcement last month of open nominations and testimonials until 3/31/01, here is the list of those nominated to date for this year's final ballot vote: Vince Bradley, Eric Cole, Sam Conlon, Constance Constable, Martin Cote, Derrick Fogle, Steve Goldberg, Ken Hamric, Peter Irish, Jeff " Animal" Johnson, Tim Kelly, Jon Lind, Greg Nelson, "Rippin' " Rick Reese, Chris "Gator" Routh, Justin Sexton, and Tim Vozar !! Please note that the top 5 in multiple nominations/testimonials received by 3/31 will be added to this year's final ballot vote by the current Hall of Fame Members. In addition, the final ballot will include these 5 automatically,carried over per last year's balloting, and vote: Yves Archambault, Sabra Jean Hall, Andy Linder, Dennis Ross, and Maxell Smith Jr. ! Again, this is your opportunity to honor your peers this year. Please address your nominations and /or testimonials to: FootbagHallofFame@footbag.org All feedback is copied to the current Hall of Fame members that will be voting on the final ballot. Have a great year in Footbag ! And, pass it on !! Ted Huff From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Fri Feb 23 16:37:35 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA09795 for footbag-outgoing; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 16:37:35 -0800 Received: (from admin@localhost) by mail.itrsolutions.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id PAA21211 for footbag@list.footbag.org; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:07:17 -0800 Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:07:17 -0800 Message-Id: <200102232307.PAA21211@mail.itrsolutions.com> X-Authentication-Warning: mail.itrsolutions.com: admin set sender to scott@creativeathletics.com using -f From: Scott Cleere To: footbag@list.footbag.org Subject: [footbag] School Tour MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Hi Playing Community, Next fall Creative Athletics has two tours going out. One is a multi-sports program called Creative Athletics and the other is a flying disc tour. The Creative Athletics tour will feature (footbag, juggling, diabolo, juggle sticks, takraw, poi, snakeboard and more). This tour is budgeted as a solo tour although it could be done by a pair. The flying disc tour will focus primarly on freestyle, golf, accuracy and ultimate. A variety of other games will also be incorporated on a limited basis. This tour has a slightly larger budget and is intended to be performed by a pair. Desirable qualifications for the positions are large group performing experience, willingness to travel for the entire school year, sales, teaching and of course the fundamentals skills involved in performing the various sports. Touring also requires a vehicle suitable for touring such as a van or something along those lines. The most important ingredient to a successful tour is a genuine LOVE of play and an infectious enthusisiam that you want to share with the world. If you are interested or know someone who might be please contact Creative Athletics by sending us a resume to 3576 Empleo St, #6, San Luis Obispo, CA 93401. You can email (but we prefer a written resume) to info@creativeathletics.com and check out our web site at http://www.creativeathletics.com to learn more about us. Happy jammin', Scott Cleere From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Mon Feb 26 23:34:20 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA11388 for footbag-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:34:20 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: (qmail 5802 invoked by uid 0); 26 Feb 2001 22:26:23 -0000 Received: from du-019-496.access.de.clara.net (HELO quarktasche) (213.221.69.241) by mail.gmx.net (mp007-rz3) with SMTP; 26 Feb 2001 22:26:23 -0000 Message-ID: <003501c0a042$c7350400$f145ddd5@quarktasche> From: "Matthias Lino Schmidt" To: footbag@list.footbag.org, freestyle@list.footbag.org Subject: [footbag] Tournament Report: Todexon, Praha Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:23:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Ladies and Gentlemen, Again there was a promising trip to the east to make, we squeezed ourselves into the car and reached Prague, capital of Czech Republic, at friday night. On Saturday the competition right at the main square (and in this city it is really the *main* square) of Prague took place. All my expectations got topped. There were 32 competitors, playing at a level that I first worried about reaching the second round. After qualifying, semi- and final round, Justin Sexton was first (did anyone dare to expect something else?), I had at least reached the finals and a new star was manifested: Vasek Klouda. 14-year-old kid from Prague, playing since last summer, became second in the competition (by this beating Juho Vesa, Jan Zimmermann and more...) and is playing sick as hell! You won't believe me until you've seen him, but I can say: He'll be hitting everything! When I first saw him playing this afternoon, he was doing combos like Ripwalk > Blur > Legbeater, later that day he hit Nuclear stuff, came close to Atomic Barrage (any special name?), hit Fusion and came damn close to Your Mom! Trust me, it should be caught on video.... Not that he's only doing some big moves without control, basics and style, no, he's hitting them clean and certain, did two or three drops in his runs, combined with basic moves and flow'n'style! Words can't explain this (as you maybe see, I am struggling for every formulation), I hope there will be videos online really soon, that the whole world is witness of the uprising of a new star to the sky of footbag! But Vasek is just an extreme example for Czech Republic. There are more kids progressing incredibily fast, moves like Stepping Down Double Down, Double Spinning Clipper, Superfly and more sick shit were hit right in front of my eyes. I'd say there are about 4 more guys the world will have to see. Not only the player's skills were cool, also the surroundings. The site of the competition was just one large room in the first floor at Wenceslas Square, with carpet on the ground, the walls embellished by graffity artists, comfortable sofas all around, the playing arena encircled by chairs and benches for spectators and a bar in another room offering drinks and some food. The room's atmosphere built the foundations for a great atmosphere among the spectators... And while we're waiting for the videos, I can at least offer some photos I got from Jan *Dexter* Struz, find them at www.michaelborbonus.de, it's my father's domain, so thanks to him.... And again, just like after coming back from Budapest, I have to say: Watch out, America! ;o) And this time it's more serious, there's something really massive going on over here! Your Eastern Europe Correspondent, Matthias Lino Schmidt....... From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Tue Feb 27 19:25:40 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA15275 for footbag-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:25:40 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from mailcity.com (fes-qout.whowhere.com [209.185.123.96]) by market.llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA21638 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:39:50 -0800 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Tue Feb 27 18:39:06 2001 To: footbag@footbag.org Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:39:06 -0800 From: "Hung Chang" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: hungchang@mailcity.com X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Re: [footbag] Tournament Report: Todexon, Praha X-Sender-Ip: 64.195.251.73 Organization: Lycos Mail (http://mail.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Matthias, thanks for the report. Had to actually look up where Czeckslovakia (sp?) is on the map. Always interesting to hear about growth of freestyle in other areas of the world. I am interested to know what is the reason for this development. Is there someone promoting and teaching this, are they schooling from the videos, is it the internet, aka footbag.org, is there a hack circle phenomenon/fad happening like in the US in the 80's, are they into more individual sports there ? Anyways, good to see freestyle spreading. Hung Chang in San Jose,CA -- On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:23:42 Matthias Lino Schmidt wrote: >All my expectations got topped. >Vasek Klouda. 14-year-old kid from Prague, playing since last summer, >became second in the competition (by this beating Juho Vesa, Jan From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Wed Feb 28 21:14:26 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA19851 for footbag-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:14:26 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from smtp2.volny.cz (smtp2.volny.cz [212.20.96.11]) by market.llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA24449 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:39:32 -0800 Received: from farkan (datelc-137.dialup.vol.cz [212.20.103.138]) by smtp2.volny.cz (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1SKd9O14980 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:39:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <200102282139120290.00EF369A@smtp.volny.cz> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.20.01.01 (3) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:39:12 +0100 From: =?us-ascii?Q?=22Vojta_Pol=E1k=22?= To: footbag@footbag.org Subject: Re: [footbag] Tournament Report: Todexon, Praha Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by list.footbag.org id MAA17872 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Hi there, On 27.2.2001 at 18:39 Hung Chang wrote: >Matthias, thanks for the report. Had to actually look up where >Czeckslovakia (sp?) is on the map. btw just to be exact it is Czech Republic. But that's not the cause, why I'm replying. >Always interesting to hear about >growth of freestyle in other areas of the world. I am interested to know >what is the reason for this development. Is there someone promoting and >teaching this, are they schooling from the videos, is it the internet, aka >footbag.org, is there a /fad happening like in the >US in the 80's, are they into more individual sports there ? The "hack circle phenomenon", as you call it, has been here for a long time. Just kicking with some basic stalls. No real footbag freestyle. The only exception was Dexter. Till last year. The first Todexon took place in february 2000. The first chance for us to see some cool new moves. Shortly afterwards Russel did a massive promotion. I wrote about it a couple of months ago. Almost every kid had a footbag and kicked. They all wanted to win the candies, t-shirts and other stuff. But the most important thing was, that Russel brought to Czech republic some top players like Sean Flynn and others but I don't remember their names :( I used to visit every contest just to watch him shred. After the promotion had ended the majority of kids stopped kicking. But luckily a few of them (including me and Vasek Klouda) got addicted. And you see the results :) Keep kickin' ------------------------------------ Vojta Pol·k Moglum@volny.cz From owner-footbag@list.footbag.org Wed Feb 28 21:20:31 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA19865 for footbag-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:20:31 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: (qmail 11037 invoked by uid 0); 28 Feb 2001 23:19:18 -0000 Received: from du-020a-160.access.de.clara.net (HELO quarktasche) (213.221.71.160) by mail.gmx.net (mail07) with SMTP; 28 Feb 2001 23:19:18 -0000 Message-ID: <005e01c0a1dc$812f1f40$a047ddd5@quarktasche> From: "Matthias Lino Schmidt" To: Cc: References: Subject: Re: [footbag] Tournament Report: Todexon, Praha Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 23:45:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Hi Hung Chang and List, > Had to actually look up where Czeckslovakia (sp?) is on the map. Then you have a older map. Since the so called "velvet revolution" in 89/90 its divided into a Czech and a Slovak republic. > Is there someone promoting and teaching this, Not in particular. I was told there has been a promotional tour by Starburst (know this brand?) some years ago. It was said that Big Add Chad and other North Americans did participate there, maybe someone could confirm or refute this. This was maybe the first appearance of freestyle footbag there, but not of of footbag at all. Starburst also produced (produces?) footbags, they were even available in newspaper shops. This might have taken part in promoting the sport a lot. > are they schooling from the videos, No, I don't think so, since nearly no players have access to them.... > is it the internet, aka footbag.org, Yes, for some, especially for those, who started it in the beginning (Dexter and crew). But having access to the internet is not that common there I'd say... > is there a hack circle phenomenon/fad happening like in the US in the 80's, As far as I can say it, I'd say: yes! :o) It seems to be getting quite popular among young people, there is one park in Prague in which you can find nearly always circles in summer. > are they into more individual sports there ? I don't know, but the so called fun and extreme sports are much more used by companies for advertisement than e.g. here in Germany. I've never seen a skateboarder on a wall advertising some mobile phone company here. This might cohere with the relatively young capitalism, which has to gain acceptance... I should better shut up now and vacate the space for those, who should be reporting... those, who are concerned... So long, Matthias.....