From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Mon Jan 4 18:07:37 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id SAA11105 for footbag-outgoing; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 18:07:37 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (smtp.email.msn.com [207.68.143.177] (may be forged)) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA09048 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 05:46:20 -0800 Received: from default - 208.255.148.202 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 05:45:38 -0800 Message-ID: <000701be37e9$cb673980$ca94ffd0@default> From: "Tina Lewis" To: Subject: [footbag] Kelly Kelley needs partners for Arizona Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:54:47 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Hi all, Kelly Kelley and I are going to be in Arizona. She needs a female doubles partner and a mixed partner. If interested or have any ideas please write me back. Should be a great tournament as always. Tina From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Mon Jan 4 18:20:21 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id SAA11618 for footbag-outgoing; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 18:20:21 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: from f10.hotmail.com (f10.hotmail.com [207.82.250.21]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA27355 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 20:44:14 -0800 Received: (from root@localhost) by f10.hotmail.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA06705 for footbag@footbag.org; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 20:43:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dvg9@hotmail.com) Message-Id: <199901020443.UAA06705@f10.hotmail.com> Received: from 153.35.103.24 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 01 Jan 1999 20:43:43 PST X-Originating-IP: [153.35.103.24] From: "Daniel Guarda" To: footbag@footbag.org Subject: [footbag] broken Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 20:43:43 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org How do I fix ripped footbags with freesole? I remember seeing somewher a concotion with one part freesole and some-odd parts water or something, but I can't find that recipe anywhere. Does anyone know how? thanks [Dan] ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Tue Jan 5 02:31:56 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id CAA00227 for footbag-outgoing; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 02:31:56 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: from dewdrop2.mindspring.com (dewdrop2.mindspring.com [207.69.200.82]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16262 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 17:44:33 -0800 Received: from smegma (user-38ld8ee.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.161.206]) by dewdrop2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA03466 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 1999 20:44:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990104203800.007d8290@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: ecrvich@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 20:38:00 -0500 To: footbag@footbag.org From: Ernest Crvich Subject: Re: [footbag] broken In-Reply-To: <199901020443.UAA06705@f10.hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org At 08:43 PM 1/1/99 PST, Daniel Guarda wrote: >How do I fix ripped footbags with freesole? I remember seeing somewher >a concotion with one part freesole and some-odd parts water or Never heard of adding water before. Whipped cream, sure, but never water. Anyway, I use a toothpick to apply a microscopic amount of the undiluted Freesole goo to a rip as soon as it appears. The less, the better...the stuff is far stronger than the fabric, so all you have to do is prevent the beads from escaping. Make sure you wash, dry, and fondle your bag beforehand. Do the same to the footbag. I'm going to hell for that one, aren't I? Express elevator, too, I bet. -- Ernest "Scratch" Crvich Durham, NC, USA http://www.mindspring.com/~ecrvich Have footbag, will shred From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Wed Jan 6 16:09:25 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id QAA28555 for footbag-outgoing; Wed, 6 Jan 1999 16:09:25 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: from thalia.fm.intel.com (thalia.fm.intel.com [132.233.247.11]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22787 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 10:33:56 -0800 Received: from fmsmsx29.FM.INTEL.COM (fmsmsx29.fm.intel.com [132.233.42.29]) by thalia.fm.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.6 1998/11/24 22:10:56 iwep Exp iwep $) with ESMTP id SAA21449 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:33:45 GMT Received: by FMSMSX29 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 5 Jan 1999 10:33:45 -0800 Message-ID: From: "Amy Westberg" To: footbag@footbag.org Subject: [footbag] Nets for Phoenix Tournament Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 10:33:44 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org All, The tournament in Arizona is coming up the 16th and 17th of January. We are very low on nets and we are going to have a very large attendance. If you have a net, can you please bring it with you? Thanks very much! Amy From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Thu Jan 7 19:32:03 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id TAA19193 for footbag-outgoing; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 19:32:03 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: from mail.mitm.net ([154.11.243.5]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17632 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 10:39:59 -0800 Received: by mail.mitm.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 07 Jan 1999 13:46:02 -0500 Received: by mail.mitm.net from webslinger [154.11.243.18] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 07 Jan 1999 13:46:01 -0500 Message-ID: <007501be3a6c$638df800$12f30b9a@webslinger> From: "Daniele Rossi" To: footbag@footbag.org Subject: [footbag] Hello Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:34:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Hello everyone, I'm a new subscriber to this list for about two days now and it has been quiet so far. So, I'll breifly introduce myself. I live in Toronto, Canada, and I'm a 25 year old male. I've tried footbag once or twice but was never able to do anything so I'm hoping I can pick up some tips here on this mailing list. I'm a totally new beginner :) Any suggestions? From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Thu Jan 7 21:34:59 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id VAA00179 for footbag-outgoing; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 21:34:59 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: from mailhost.onramp.net (mailhost.onramp.net [199.1.11.3]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA19250 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 13:04:44 -0800 Received: from acsdallas.com (ppp17-204.dllstx.onramp.net [206.50.202.204]) by mailhost.onramp.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA10876 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 15:04:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from james [144.19.62.4] by acs_dc [144.19.62.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP3.R) for ; Thu, 07 Jan 1999 15:09:07 -0600 Received: by james with Microsoft Mail id <01BE3A4E.11A8FC60@james>; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:57:39 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE3A4E.11A8FC60@james> From: James Roberts To: "footbag@footbag.org" , "'Daniele Rossi'" Subject: RE: [footbag] Hello Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:57:37 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: footbag@footbag.org Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Daniele Rossi wrote: >Any suggestions? D, the floor is yours. JR DFC From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Fri Jan 8 02:41:40 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id CAA30130 for footbag-outgoing; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 02:41:40 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: from mindspring.com (ppp-16-ts12.nerdc.ufl.edu [128.227.206.215]) by smtp.ufl.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1/2.1.0) with ESMTP id TAA61930 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 19:12:23 -0500 Message-ID: <36954D5A.34048AF7@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 19:12:10 -0500 From: Eric Burton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: footbag@majordomo.footbag.org Subject: [footbag] Re: footbag-digest V1 #180 References: <199901072330.XAA29196@eniac.yak.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org > I've tried footbag once or twice but > was never able to do anything so I'm hoping I can pick up some tips here on > this mailing list. I'm a totally new beginner :) Any suggestions? Well you must have liked it, to join the list after having no initial success. Personally, I got started with the _Hacky Sack for the Complete Klutz_ book (or was it _Footbag for the Complete Klutz_? I think it was "Hacky Sack"). After a weekend of trying and trying and getting muscles sore that I hadn't known were there, I started to get the hang of it. For some reason I wonder if this is a really un-hip thing to recommend, but it helped me when I first got the fever to kick. While I'm at it, let me ask this: I have the merest acquaintance with a footbagger who moved down to South Florida in the Everglades area. Homestead, Florida is not too far from there and Miami is farther, but not a serious trek. Anybody know of kickers in the Everglades/Homestead/Miami areas? I know that when I move somewhere one of the first things I seek out is the local footbag scene. Thanks, Eric Burton From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Fri Jan 8 03:03:13 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id DAA31477 for footbag-outgoing; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 03:03:13 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: from hotmail.com (f154.hotmail.com [207.82.251.33]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA23754 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:35:48 -0800 Received: (qmail 24113 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jan 1999 02:35:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19990108023517.24111.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 208.25.108.130 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 07 Jan 1999 18:35:15 PST X-Originating-IP: [208.25.108.130] From: "James Holt" To: footbag@footbag.org Subject: Re: [footbag] Hello Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 18:35:15 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org hi my name is James and Ive been playing for a few years and I have only a few things I can tell you stay over the bag, have someone teach you, study the videos at the site, and practice, practice, practice, I cant say this enough. and dude if any1 replys to your message privatly could you send me a copy. thanks and keep practicing James > >Hello everyone, > >I'm a new subscriber to this list for about two days now and it has been >quiet so far. So, I'll breifly introduce myself. I live in Toronto, >Canada, and I'm a 25 year old male. I've tried footbag once or twice but >was never able to do anything so I'm hoping I can pick up some tips here on >this mailing list. I'm a totally new beginner :) Any suggestions? > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Fri Jan 8 16:32:34 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id QAA24971 for footbag-outgoing; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 16:32:34 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: by mail.mitm.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 08 Jan 1999 11:13:56 -0500 Received: by mail.mitm.net from webslinger [154.11.243.18] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 08 Jan 1999 11:13:56 -0500 Message-ID: <00a301be3b20$46a62b40$12f30b9a@webslinger> From: "Daniele Rossi" To: Subject: [footbag] thank you all Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 11:02:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Hi again, I'd like to say thanks to everyone who replied to my intro message. And there were a lot of replies! :) I'll look at all the websites suggested to me and I'll see if I can find the books too. One in particular intrigued me, the title was something like (can't remember it right now) "Footbag for the klutz" because I have zero coordination with my feet! From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Fri Jan 8 16:55:29 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id QAA01291 for footbag-outgoing; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 16:55:29 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA01345; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 10:25:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from ppp51.atext.com(206.66.71.51) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma001322; Fri Jan 8 10:25:20 1999 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Sender: brat@market.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <00a301be3b20$46a62b40$12f30b9a@webslinger> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 08:27:51 -0800 To: "Daniele Rossi" From: Steve Goldberg Subject: Re: [footbag] thank you all Cc: Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org At 11:02 AM -0500 1/8/99, Daniele Rossi wrote: > One in particular intrigued > me, the title was something like (can't remember it right now) "Footbag for > the klutz" because I have zero coordination with my feet! Please don't buy that book. It's called "The Hacky Sack Book" and it's buy the same people who published "Juggling for the Complete Klutz." The title of the Hacky Sack book does not have the word Klutz in it. The book is about 20 years out of date, and does nothing but point out how mundane footbag used to be before people actually turned it into a discipline. The sport of footbag is something anyone can learn if they're serious. There is unfortunately no good book at a bookstore that really teaches you how to play, but there are some resources availabe. Here's my recommendation, in order of effectiveness, and note that the Hacky Sack book does not appear on the list. If you read it, it will permanently ruin your footbag future. 1. Use the club list at http://www.footbag.org/clubs/ and find a club or advanced footbag player near you, and seek personal instruction. Most footbaggers enjoy the chance to teach new players, believe it or not. 2. Go to a tournament or festival in your area (check http://www.footbag.org/events) and watch. 3. Read all of the information on the footbag website at http://www.footbag.org -- especially the FAQ at http://www.footbag.org/faq 4. Get people to teach you over e-mail (in private messages, not public -- everyone really does need 1-1 instruction) 5. If you're interested in getting more into the *freestyle* discipline, join the freestyle discussion list, and buy Tricks of the Trade by Kenny Shults (available at http://worldfootbag.com/catalog) 6. If you're interested in getting more into the footbag net game, good luck -- there's little information on this sport aside from the rules online. See steps 1-2. 7. Rinse, lather, repeat. Steve From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Fri Jan 8 20:31:08 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id UAA02573 for footbag-outgoing; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 20:31:08 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: from acsdallas.com (ppp17-204.dllstx.onramp.net [206.50.202.204]) by mailhost.onramp.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA25188 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:18:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from james [144.19.62.4] by acs_dc [144.19.62.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP3.R) for ; Fri, 08 Jan 1999 13:24:16 -0600 Received: by james with Microsoft Mail id <01BE3B08.AF427D60@james>; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:13:29 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE3B08.AF427D60@james> From: James Roberts To: "footbag@majordomo.footbag.org" , "'Daniele Rossi'" Subject: RE: [footbag] thank you all Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:13:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: footbag@majordomo.footbag.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by eniac.yak.net id TAA24939 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Daniele Rossi wrote: >I have zero coordination with my feet! Wrong. You can walk, can't you? Rippin, D, Matt, and I kicked with a guy in Ft. Worth that had 1 leg and 2 crutches!! He was doing flying clippers, too! Talk about motivational. I used to tell people, "If you can walk, you can kick." This guy couldn't even walk (without support, of course). As I'm sure you've heard, learn to kick with BOTH insides, outsides, and toes FIRST, and the rest is "cake" - heh, heh. That's one of the beauties of this sport - anyone can do it if they give it a shot and follow all, or most of the instructions sent to you. JR DFC From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Fri Jan 8 21:26:10 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id VAA21134 for footbag-outgoing; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 21:26:10 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f From: Problems1@aol.com Received: from Problems1@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id UFKKa04795; Fri, 8 Jan 1999 15:17:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <6f00af98.369667f7@aol.com> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 15:17:59 EST To: dan@e-max.net, footbag@majordomo.footbag.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [footbag] thank you all Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Mac sub 189 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Dear Dan, I've looked over the klutz footbag book before. it's the most basic of the basic; in my opinion, a waste of money. anything they teach in there you can learn in a week by experience. if I were you I'd look up the grass stains and learn from them, or go to some concerts or something if you're into music and learn from people playing there; concerts usually have a great hack crowd. The klutz book is mostly a list of silly games that don't have much to do with freestyle, and doesn't even go as far as to teach basic freestyle stuff like flying clippers (jesters). Don't waste your time and money. From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Mon Jan 11 15:47:28 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id PAA03786 for footbag-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:47:28 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.6]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA25362 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:06:31 -0800 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA02712 for ; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:06:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from lax-ca12-24.ix.netcom.com(204.30.73.216) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma002680; Sun Jan 10 21:05:51 1999 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:04:54 -0800 Message-ID: <01BE3CCC.1BA9A450.stoler@footbag.org> From: Mike Stoler To: "'footbag@footbag.org'" Subject: [footbag] service roation after the 1st side out in Doubles Net Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 17:47:39 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org In Doubles Net, who serves first on the second team to serve? According to the official rules online, the 2nd team gets to choose which player serves first. At one point, I heard talk about changing that rule to require the person who was playing in the odd-court to have to switch courts as usual and be required to serve. Personally, I think that rule change would be a good idea. While clearly the team that serves first has an advantage in that fact, the team that serves second seems to get a strange kind of advantage by being able to decide both who serves first and who receives first. Plus, it seems awkward that the service rotation scheme that is followed in doubles net in every other play does not occur after the first side out. Our club plays with this non-existent rule. (Maybe we should change.) What do other clubs do? Mike From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Mon Jan 11 17:14:47 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id RAA31776 for footbag-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:14:47 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: from smtp.email.msn.com (smtp.email.msn.com [207.68.143.177] (may be forged)) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00288; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:23:17 -0800 Received: from default - 208.255.148.32 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:22:46 -0800 Message-ID: <001001be3d7f$f7516480$2094ffd0@default> From: "Tina Lewis" To: "Mike Stoler" , Subject: Re: [footbag] service roation after the 1st side out in Doubles Net Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:32:21 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org We talked about changing this at IFAB but there wasn't really a good sold reason or overwhelming support to change it. It is a little awkward but its really just another way to try and even things out on the choice of serve/sides issue. I personally like it because its just another fun variation in doubles. For newcomers its a little strange to explain but another rule that makes the sport uniquely our own. One of my personal goals is to have some consistency in the rules so that now that we have the basic rules in place we only tinker with changes that have a really good solid reason to change them. Now that the rules are fairly static, IFAB needs to devote more time and energies to promoting the sport, the clubs, the tournaments and players. Its probably best to practice under the rules so that there is no confusion when you have to play in a tournament, it just becomes second nature and you forget that it was ever weird. Tina. From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Mon Jan 11 18:13:10 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id SAA18049 for footbag-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 18:13:10 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: from mailhost.onramp.net (mailhost.onramp.net [199.1.11.3]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01497 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:30:42 -0800 Received: from acsdallas.com (ppp16-50.dllstx.onramp.net [206.50.201.177]) by mailhost.onramp.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA06941 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:30:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from james [144.19.62.4] by acs_dc [144.19.62.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP3.R) for ; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:37:25 -0600 Received: by james with Microsoft Mail id <01BE3D55.432A1B20@james>; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:26:42 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE3D55.432A1B20@james> From: James Roberts To: Mike Stoler , "footbag@footbag.org" , "'Tina Lewis'" Subject: [footbag] Another Net Question Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:26:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: footbag@footbag.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by eniac.yak.net id RAA09039 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Hey Tina and all, Forgive me for not keeping up with the Net rules, but, what's the status of the "contact above the net" rule? My personal opinion (not that it matters) is that if you're trying to hit the bag and make contact with the other player, count it. I think I recall some limited discussion about this awhile back on this list, but would like to know other's thoughts as well. JR DFC From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Mon Jan 11 23:17:51 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id XAA15440 for footbag-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:17:51 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: from mail.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com (imail@ha1.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com [24.2.10.66]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04740; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:48:21 -0800 Received: from cr1003236-a.crdva1.bc.wave.home.com ([24.113.51.39]) by mail.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com (InterMail v4.0 201-221) with SMTP id <19990111204810.OOTS25920.mail.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com@cr1003236-a.crdva1.bc.wave.home.com>; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:48:10 -0800 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Andy Ronald" To: Mike Stoler Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:48:12 -800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [footbag] service roation after the 1st side out in Doubles Reply-to: mongooze@home.com CC: footbag@footbag.org Priority: normal In-reply-to: <01BE3CCC.1BA9A450.stoler@footbag.org> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Message-Id: <19990111204810.OOTS25920.mail.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com@cr1003236-a.crdva1.bc.wave.home.com> Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org > > In Doubles Net, who serves first on the second team to serve? > > According to the official rules online, the 2nd team gets to choose > which player serves first. At one point, I heard talk about changing > that rule to require the person who was playing in the odd-court to > have to switch courts as usual and be required to serve. > > Personally, I think that rule change would be a good idea. While > clearly the team that serves first has an advantage in that fact, the > team that serves second seems to get a strange kind of advantage by > being able to decide both who serves first and who receives first. > Plus, it seems awkward that the service rotation scheme that is > followed in doubles net in every other play does not occur after the > first side out. > > Our club plays with this non-existent rule. (Maybe we should change.) > What do other clubs do? > > Mike I agree whole-heartedly Mike! Andy Ronald From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Sat Jan 16 06:04:38 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id GAA32494 for footbag-outgoing; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 06:04:38 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: from unknown (slip16.den.nilenet.net [206.247.98.16]) by ra.nilenet.com (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with SMTP id RAA11140; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:21:26 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Conversation <00a301be3b20$46a62b40$12f30b9a@webslinger> with last message Priority: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 To: "Daniele Rossi" Cc: footbag@majordomo.footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Daryl Genz" Subject: Re: [footbag] thank you all Date: Fri, 08 Jan 99 21:02:00 PST Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by eniac.yak.net id AAA26718 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org ---------- > At 11:02 AM -0500 1/8/99, Daniele Rossi wrote: > > One in particular intrigued > > me, the title was something like (can't remember it right now) "Footbag for > > the klutz" because I have zero coordination with my feet! > 2. Go to a tournament or festival in your area (check > http://www.footbag.org/events) and watch. Or one not in your area... May I suggest the '99 Heart of Vegas Jam. This is the real thing. Tons of shredding, free lessons, and tons of fun. Genzu From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Sun Jan 17 04:54:06 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id EAA03239 for footbag-outgoing; Sun, 17 Jan 1999 04:54:06 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.6]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA13228 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 17:06:42 -0800 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA13691 for ; Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:06:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from dal-tx42-31.ix.netcom.com(207.221.94.95) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma013679; Sat Jan 16 19:05:58 1999 Message-ID: <36A13AF2.1996@utdallas.edu> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:20:50 -0600 From: Derric Scalf Reply-To: scalf@utdallas.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: footbag@footbag.org Subject: [footbag] Austin, TX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org James Roberts is in Austin this weekend, but he doesn't have anyone's phone number. So, if you know Kyle or Ariel's number, give James a call at 512-301-9488. Thanks. -D From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Tue Jan 19 05:32:50 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id FAA10570 for footbag-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 05:32:50 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f From: Darlene House Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA09899 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:06:09 -0800 Received: from Dhouse2024@aol.com by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id PONUa03482 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:05:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 00:05:17 EST To: footbag@footbag.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [footbag] The right kind of shoes-net Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org I was wondering if any of the women have tried the Saucony Jazz for net. There are several models of Saucony that look good, which one is the best? Darlene Santa Cruz, CA From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Tue Jan 19 06:41:37 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id GAA05565 for footbag-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 06:41:37 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: from m9.sprynet.com (m9.sprynet.com [165.121.1.209]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA10535 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:14:39 -0800 Received: from SPRYNETSPRY337196 ([199.174.204.23]) by m9.sprynet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA11402; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:14:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901190614.WAA11402@m9.sprynet.com> Reply-To: From: "Jane Jones" To: "Darlene House" , Subject: Re: [footbag] The right kind of shoes-net Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 22:21:34 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Hi Darlene, I use the Saucony Jazz Trail running shoe. Good traction on the grass and awesome flat inside, outside and sole surfaces. hope you find a good shoe that fits! Adios, Jane ---------- : From: Darlene House : To: footbag@footbag.org : Subject: [footbag] The right kind of shoes-net : Date: Monday, January 18, 1999 9:05 PM : : I was wondering if any of the women have tried the Saucony Jazz for net. : There are several models of Saucony that look good, which one is the best? : : Darlene : Santa Cruz, CA From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Tue Jan 19 15:19:14 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id PAA05257 for footbag-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 15:19:14 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: from diana.sfsu.edu (root@diana.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.239]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA11197 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 23:59:08 -0800 Received: from default (madmax-41.sfsu.edu [130.212.201.41]) by diana.sfsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA21910 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 1999 23:57:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990118235845.006a6f4c@sfsu.edu> X-Sender: tuhuge@sfsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 23:58:45 -0800 To: From: Tu Vu Subject: Re: [footbag] The right kind of shoes-net In-Reply-To: <199901190614.WAA11402@m9.sprynet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org At 10:21 PM 1/18/99 -0800, Jane Jones wrote: >Hi Darlene, > >I use the Saucony Jazz Trail running shoe. Good traction on the grass and >awesome flat inside, outside and sole surfaces. > >hope you find a good shoe that fits! wahoo! another wonderful human being who uses sauconys for net! i have been playing net with my saucony jazz 5000 since 1995 and i still have them. the only that sucks about a lot of saucony shoes is there monster tracking at the bottom of the sole and i always got them stuck in the net when i tried to spike to close. 2 huge From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Tue Jan 19 22:24:51 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id WAA08021 for footbag-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 22:24:51 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: from atlrel1.hp.com (atlrel1.hp.com [156.153.255.210]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA20977 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:51:04 -0800 Received: from ssc126e.cup.hp.com (ssc126e.cup.hp.com [15.13.174.165]) by atlrel1.hp.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.5tis) with ESMTP id QAA26604; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 16:51:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from jsymons@localhost) by ssc126e.cup.hp.com (8.7.1/8.7.3 TIS Messaging 5.0) id NAA12741; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:51:03 -0800 (PST) From: jsymons@cup.hp.com (Julie Symons) Message-Id: <990119135103.ZM12739@ssc126e.cup.hp.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:51:02 -0800 In-Reply-To: "Jane Jones" "Re: [footbag] The right kind of shoes-net" (Jan 18, 10:21pm) References: <199901190614.WAA11402@m9.sprynet.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (5.0.0 30July97) To: "Darlene House" , Subject: Re: [footbag] The right kind of shoes-net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Hi Darlene and all, I use the Saucony Avalanche (aka Storm). But as any good net shoe, it has been discontinued. The silver lining in that is that I found them for as low as $25.00. Montgomery Wards and Big5 were clearing them out last time I checked. Julie On Jan 18, 10:21pm, Jane Jones wrote: > Subject: Re: [footbag] The right kind of shoes-net > Hi Darlene, > > I use the Saucony Jazz Trail running shoe. Good traction on the grass and > awesome flat inside, outside and sole surfaces. > > hope you find a good shoe that fits! > > Adios, > Jane > > ---------- > : From: Darlene House > : To: footbag@footbag.org > : Subject: [footbag] The right kind of shoes-net > : Date: Monday, January 18, 1999 9:05 PM > : > : I was wondering if any of the women have tried the Saucony Jazz for net. > : There are several models of Saucony that look good, which one is the > best? > : > : Darlene > : Santa Cruz, CA >-- End of excerpt from Jane Jones -- ============================================================= *** /_ __*** Julie Symons jsymons@cup.hp.com ** / //_/ ** Hewlett-Packard Company HPSD/PASL *** / *** Phone: 1-408-447-0994 Fax: 1-408-447-1345 ============================================================= From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Thu Jan 21 01:28:05 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id BAA05658 for footbag-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 01:28:05 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: from sims-ha.videotron.net (faure.videotron.net [205.151.222.100]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05318 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 16:58:29 -0800 Received: from [207.96.245.208] (ppp208.245.mmtl.videotron.net) by sims-ha.videotron.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.09.21.23.34) with SMTP id <0F5V0065ZXCKEN@sims-ha.videotron.net> for footbag@footbag.org; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 19:58:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 20:03:39 -0500 From: Martin Cote Subject: [footbag] Phoenix rocks! X-Sender: vlwobrie@pop.videotron.ca To: footbag@footbag.org Message-id: <0F5V00668XCKEN@sims-ha.videotron.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by eniac.yak.net id BAA05632 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Hi all! I'd like to thanks Amy and Gator for putting up a great tournament and being such good host (and not to forget DJ , Rob and Heather...). It was my first time out there and coming from minus 20† to plus 70†, it is kind of a shock at first. Seiing yellow grass makes up for a really weard contrast, at least at the pickup game site. This is the ideal tempeture for net though (especially for singles) so this is in my mind the ultimate winter break. With a good level of competition, all the ingredients were there. The only thing missing was the beach i guess. I'm sure Amy is working on that for next year! Martin From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Fri Jan 22 02:35:29 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id CAA00864 for footbag-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 02:35:29 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: from hotmail.com (f214.hotmail.com [207.82.251.105]) by onet2.cup.hp.com (Postfix) with SMTP for id 7C5D390AC; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 17:06:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 8148 invoked by uid 0); 20 Jan 1999 01:05:48 -0000 Message-ID: <19990120010548.8147.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.236.213.194 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 17:05:48 PST X-Originating-IP: [207.236.213.194] From: "Yves Archambault" To: footbag@footbag.org Subject: Re: [footbag] The right kind of shoes-net Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 17:05:48 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Hello everybody, In response to the Saucony quest: I was very impressed with the traction of these shoes but they are very unstable to lateral movement. They're also very high heeled. Basically Saucony makes running shoes not cross trainers. Personnaly I wouldn't wear them anymore, I have to recognize that these shoes were for something in the 3 right knee injuries that I suffered since july 97. The 3rd one was the total destruction of that knee. Notice that these 3 injuries occured in support leg action and not in kicks. In short I strongly recommend a type of shoe which is wider and offer the best lateral support possible e.g. cross trainers or tennis shoes. Take yr time, visit as many stores as you need to find the kicking surface that you need or modify them but don't neglect stability. We always end up on 1 leg during a kick, comin' down of a jump etc. Keep that in mind. Hope that this will help. Yves ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Fri Jan 22 02:36:18 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id CAA00898 for footbag-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 02:36:18 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f From: Darlene House Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (imo22.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.66]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16322 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 12:41:00 -0800 Received: from Dhouse2024@aol.com by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id SMLVa01428 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:33:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <5749c189.36a78f24@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 15:33:40 EST To: footbag@footbag.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [footbag] Shoe advice Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 84 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Thanks to all for the shoe advice. This helps a lot. Darlene Santa Cruz, CA From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Fri Jan 22 23:16:32 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id XAA01196 for footbag-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 23:16:32 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: from jsisfomg1.jsishipping.com (jsishipping.com [207.33.33.34]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA32578 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:48:07 -0800 Received: from jsisfo22.jsishipping.com ([207.33.33.89]) by jsisfomg1.jsishipping.com (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-14027) with SMTP id AAA226; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:48:06 -0800 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:48:32 -0800 Message-ID: <01BE4616.47C0E000.ewulff@jsishipping.com> From: Eric Wulff To: "'Martin Cote'" , footbag@footbag.org Subject: RE: [footbag] Phoenix rocks! Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:48:30 -0800 Organization: JSI Shipping X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Encoding: 28 TEXT Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Only thing missing??.. The beach??? Who cares about the beach? Can't freestyle on the beach... hah! hehehe Eric -----Original Message----- From: Martin Cote [SMTP:martinco@videotron.ca] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 1999 5:04 PM To: footbag@footbag.org Subject: [footbag] Phoenix rocks! Hi all! I'd like to thanks Amy and Gator for putting up a great tournament and being such good host (and not to forget DJ , Rob and Heather...). It was my first time out there and coming from minus 20? to plus 70?, it is kind of a shock at first. Seiing yellow grass makes up for a really weard contrast, at least at the pickup game site. This is the ideal tempeture for net though (especially for singles) so this is in my mind the ultimate winter break. With a good level of competition, all the ingredients were there. The only thing missing was the beach i guess. I'm sure Amy is working on that for next year! Martin From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Sat Jan 23 18:02:48 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id SAA27925 for footbag-outgoing; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 18:02:48 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: from mailhost.onramp.net (mailhost.onramp.net [199.1.11.3]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09902 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:25:34 -0800 Received: from acsdallas.com (ppp12-26.dllstx.onramp.net [206.50.200.154]) by mailhost.onramp.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA17333 for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:25:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from james [144.19.62.4] by acs_dc [144.19.62.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP3.R) for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:30:17 -0600 Received: by james with Microsoft Mail id <01BE46C2.368D9240@james>; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:19:16 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE46C2.368D9240@james> From: James Roberts To: "'Martin Cote'" , "footbag@footbag.org" , "'Eric Wulff'" Subject: RE: [footbag] Phoenix rocks! Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:19:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: footbag@footbag.org Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Eric Wulff wrote: >Only thing missing??.. The beach??? Who cares about the beach? Can't freestyle on the beach... hah! You can at South Padre Island, TX. Ask Kenny, Kendall & Jay W....then move to TX...or, at least come to Southern Regionals. Sea y'all JR DFC From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Sun Jan 24 18:32:01 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id SAA03161 for footbag-outgoing; Sun, 24 Jan 1999 18:32:01 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.6]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA25482 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:05:04 -0800 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA03560 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:04:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from lax-ca18-17.ix.netcom.com(204.31.111.209) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma003509; Fri Jan 22 08:04:19 1999 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 06:03:46 -0800 Message-ID: <01BE45CC.F92885E0.stoler@footbag.org> From: Mike Stoler To: "'footbag@footbag.org'" Subject: [footbag] re: Phoenix rocks! Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 19:31:49 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org I'd like to second what Martin Cote' says about the Phoenix tournament. Thanks very much to Amy and the rest of the great Phoenix club for making us guests feel at home. Thanks especially go out to Heather who made her home available for the party Saturday night (and got the Tyson fight too!). But there's one thing that Martin says that makes me think, though: > This is the ideal tempeture for net though (especially for singles) > so this is in my mind the ultimate winter break. With a good level > of competition, all the ingredients were there. The only thing > missing was the beach i guess. I'm sure Amy is working on that for > next year! footbag] Phoenix rocks! I don't think Amy is working on the beach part, but we most certainly are. The Southern California Footbag Championships will be held in Hermosa Beach, California on April 10th and 11th. The site is just three blocks away from the beach and one of the host hotels literally is just across the sidewalk from the beach. It is definitely possible to get a room that can see the waves. The whole thing is just 5 miles from the airport. I hope you haven't gotten your fill of sunny weather and footbag tournament fun, Martin. Come out and join us in April. Regards, Mike From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Sun Jan 31 23:27:43 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) id XAA05392 for footbag-outgoing; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 23:27:43 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: from smtp.email.msn.com ([207.46.181.18]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00762 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:35:20 -0800 Received: from default - 208.255.148.19 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:36:57 -0800 Message-ID: <002001be4d4a$335241a0$1394ffd0@default> From: "Tina Lewis" To: Subject: [footbag] Austin Texas Footbag - Novice Net Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 12:47:47 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Greetings All - Austin, Texas Footbaggers. I am trying to put together some weekend net sessions for new players and have a couple of novices interested in playing some footbag net. Starting next Sunday I'd like to set up at least 2 nets and show anyone interested how to play, serve, and get better (net drills and games). I'll give you a rule book and I have plenty of good net bags to borrow. Shoes: Lavers will work but some nice light, flat sided cross-trainers are ideal especially if you already own a pair. We could even work up to a mini-tournament. I'd like to do this at Zilker Park either at the back gate or the Rugby Field. I'd like to work the times and locations out so that the most people (novices to learn and pros and intermediates to teach) can make it. If you are interested please e-mail me or call and leave a message at 371-1962. Tina.