From owner-footbag@eniac.yak.net Thu Apr 1 23:55:17 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA08274 for footbag-outgoing; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 23:55:17 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag using -f Received: from mailhost.onramp.net (mailhost.onramp.net [199.1.11.3]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12050 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:39:27 -0800 Received: from acsdallas.com (a210-36.ppp.dlls.tx.onramp.net [206.50.201.36]) by mailhost.onramp.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA03683 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:39:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from JAMES [144.19.62.4] by acs_dc [144.19.62.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP3.R) for ; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:46:45 -0600 Received: by JAMES with Microsoft Mail id <01BE7C55.31432160@JAMES>; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:34:55 -0000 Message-ID: <01BE7C55.31432160@JAMES> From: James Roberts To: "'Footbag'" Subject: [footbag] Net Shoes Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:34:53 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: footbag@footbag.org Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org What are the best footbag net shoes available? Thanks, JR DFC From owner-footbag@footbag.org Tue Apr 13 06:37:32 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA15185 for FBfootbag-outgoing@eniac.yak.net; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 06:37:32 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from jsisfo22.jsishipping.com ([207.33.33.89]) by jsisfomg1.jsishipping.com (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-14027) with SMTP id AAA49; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:28:52 -0800 From: "Eric Wulff" To: footbag@footbag.org Subject: RE: [footbag] Net Shoes Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:28:53 -0800 Message-ID: <001801be7d68$f44843c0$592121cf@jsisfo22.jsishipping.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199904022330.XAA11427@eniac.yak.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Laver's... of course... (some might argue Teva's but I disagree) What a silly question.. he he :) iron -----Original Message----- From: James Roberts Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:34:53 -0000 Subject: [footbag] Net Shoes What are the best footbag net shoes available? Thanks, JR DFC From owner-footbag@footbag.org Tue Apr 13 06:48:25 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA15259 for FBfootbag-outgoing@eniac.yak.net; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 06:48:25 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from mimas.csuchico.edu (mimas.CSUChico.EDU [132.241.82.12]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09470 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:52:01 -0700 Received: (from guru@localhost) by mimas.csuchico.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA25899; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:49:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Tara Ohr X-Sender: guru@mimas To: footbag@footbag.org Subject: [footbag] teaching the skills In-Reply-To: <01BE7C55.31432160@JAMES> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Okay, here's the story. I work at a sports club in Chico and I'm thinking about starting up a footbag class for youngsters. I'm not that advanced in the sport, but I can hold my own. I love teaching little kids and thought it would be a good idea to teach the skills of footbag to the younger generations. I know there are pros who travel and do seminars around the country. Does anyone have some advice on how to begin the class or what steps should be taken to insure the best program? Thanks for your help, Tara Ohr From owner-footbag@footbag.org Tue Apr 13 07:33:58 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA15361 for FBfootbag-outgoing@eniac.yak.net; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:33:58 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from [207.96.209.249] by sims-ha.videotron.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.03.08.20.27) with ESMTP id <0F9K00IBLULKYR@sims-ha.videotron.net> for footbag@footbag.org; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:39:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 14:47:04 -0500 From: Martin Cote Subject: Re: [footbag] Net Shoes To: James Roberts , "'Footbag'" Message-id: <0F9K00IBMULKYR@sims-ha.videotron.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org > What are the best footbag net shoes available? > > Thanks, > JR > DFC Hi James, I'm not sure if we met before. I remember a James Roberts from Texas who was more into freestyling at the time (87-88) I'm sure there's quite a few good shoes out there. The problem is once you find one good model they are only available for one season. Anyway i found what in my opinion the best shoe for net to be Brooks beast, the 1998 model. They have adequate grip and they're made for lateral movement. They look bumpy at first but they're easy to sand. With a bit of triming you can get one of the flattest inside surface for a net shoe. But still, i was not yet completly satisfied when i bought them. The outsides were perfect but i wanted the inside to be as flat as a ping pong paddle. I saw before people putting patches on the inside of their shoes. I think the first who did it was someone called "dutch" holland in 86-87. Can't remember his first name, anyway it was pretty impressive at the time. I think he did it for speed consecutive mostly. And alf Magnuson (no idea how to write his name) did one pair too before he retired. And not to forget Andrew morgan who got a shoemaker to do it for him. I always thought i would be too difficult to do it myself, but one day i decided to give it a try. I went to a shoemaker and asked him some crepe (not sure how to write it) It's a sole replacement material i think.I explained him what i wanted to do and he said crepe was difficult to work, so he suggested me an other material, don't know the name. It's black and it can be 1/2 or 1 inch thick. First i scrape the inside of shoes so that it would be as flat as possible. (but you always end up with a kind of curve. that's why you need a patch) Then i cut a peice of material to fit the inside the shoe. With a drill and a grindstone tip i sanded the patch to fit as closely as possible to the shape of the shoe. It can take quite some time to do a good job but it's worth it. I use shoegoo glue to stick the patch to the shoe. I work pretty well. And at last you need something to hold tight both piece for about 12 hours, (don't know the word for it in english). If you use a lot your inside, it's well worth it especially for spike serve, round house, and inside sets. I can see the results not only for myself. I did a pair for a friend and i could see the immediate results. His round house are a lot more consistant. He's got now a pretty good serve (he doen't put half of them in the net anymore as i did myself too.) You know i always wish a shoe company would make the perfect shoe for footbag one day. But i don't think that day is nowhere near. Check the freestylers, they cut off all the extra weight of their shoes and trick the tip of their shoes to have better control for toe stall. But for net players you will rarely see them touch the shape of their shoes. I see more and more players using mainly their outside kick (i was about to give up on my inside myself) because that was the only reliable surface to play with. But i'm sure that with more predictable inside surface it can help a lot of net player to get more consistent With this in mind you can look for shoes with good outside and manage to work the inside with a patch. That could broaden your choice a lot when you go to the store. I also have my idea of what could be the ultimate net bag, but i think i'll keep that for an other discussion. Martin Cote By the way there will be windchill tournament soon 10-11 april, here in Montreal. It will be mostly a net tournament but if enough freestylers show up we'll have probably 2 round of freestyle. I will post more info soon on the event web page at www.footbag.org From owner-footbag@footbag.org Tue Apr 13 07:35:04 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA15371 for FBfootbag-outgoing@eniac.yak.net; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:35:04 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from 207.194.197.150 (unverified [207.194.197.150]) by srv1.reelwest.bc.ca (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 11:39:21 -0800 Message-ID: <3704AC2E.5E15@intouch.bc.ca> Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 11:38:26 +0000 From: "Juliet Pendray" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: footbag@footbag.org Subject: Re: [footbag] Net Shoes References: <01BE7C55.31432160@JAMES> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org I think the key word is available :-) There are some shoes that folks are finding excellent to kick with (flat insides/outsides, good toe surface, tread, arch support, etc). But the &*#@! shoe companies keep revamping them, suddenly deciding to take a perfectly good shoe and cutting wedges out of the insides and outsides. A couple of folks have mentioned the Asics Gel (mister Butcher?), but whenever I see various versions, they have chunks cut from the sides or some other evil inappropriateness. My dude bought Saucony Grid Stabil's the other day, and is pronouncing them good - very good support and also very lightweight. I still like my Saucony Jazz's, but now they are old and dying and I am also interested in the responses to James Robert's question. Joooooliet James Roberts wrote: > > What are the best footbag net shoes available? > > Thanks, > JR > DFC From owner-footbag@footbag.org Tue Apr 13 07:58:23 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA15484 for FBfootbag-outgoing@eniac.yak.net; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:58:23 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from jsisfo22.jsishipping.com ([207.33.33.89]) by jsisfomg1.jsishipping.com (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-14027) with SMTP id AAA49; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:28:52 -0800 From: "Eric Wulff" To: footbag@footbag.org Subject: RE: [footbag] Net Shoes Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:28:53 -0800 Message-ID: <001801be7d68$f44843c0$592121cf@jsisfo22.jsishipping.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199904022330.XAA11427@eniac.yak.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Laver's... of course... (some might argue Teva's but I disagree) What a silly question.. he he :) iron -----Original Message----- From: James Roberts Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:34:53 -0000 Subject: [footbag] Net Shoes What are the best footbag net shoes available? Thanks, JR DFC From owner-footbag@footbag.org Tue Apr 13 07:58:26 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA15493 for FBfootbag-outgoing@eniac.yak.net; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:58:26 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from mimas.csuchico.edu (mimas.CSUChico.EDU [132.241.82.12]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09470 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:52:01 -0700 Received: (from guru@localhost) by mimas.csuchico.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA25899; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:49:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Tara Ohr X-Sender: guru@mimas To: footbag@footbag.org Subject: [footbag] teaching the skills In-Reply-To: <01BE7C55.31432160@JAMES> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Okay, here's the story. I work at a sports club in Chico and I'm thinking about starting up a footbag class for youngsters. I'm not that advanced in the sport, but I can hold my own. I love teaching little kids and thought it would be a good idea to teach the skills of footbag to the younger generations. I know there are pros who travel and do seminars around the country. Does anyone have some advice on how to begin the class or what steps should be taken to insure the best program? Thanks for your help, Tara Ohr From owner-footbag@footbag.org Tue Apr 13 07:58:36 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA15538 for FBfootbag-outgoing@eniac.yak.net; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:58:36 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from 207.194.197.150 (unverified [207.194.197.150]) by srv1.reelwest.bc.ca (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Fri, 02 Apr 1999 11:39:21 -0800 Message-ID: <3704AC2E.5E15@intouch.bc.ca> Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 11:38:26 +0000 From: "Juliet Pendray" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: footbag@footbag.org Subject: Re: [footbag] Net Shoes References: <01BE7C55.31432160@JAMES> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org I think the key word is available :-) There are some shoes that folks are finding excellent to kick with (flat insides/outsides, good toe surface, tread, arch support, etc). But the &*#@! shoe companies keep revamping them, suddenly deciding to take a perfectly good shoe and cutting wedges out of the insides and outsides. A couple of folks have mentioned the Asics Gel (mister Butcher?), but whenever I see various versions, they have chunks cut from the sides or some other evil inappropriateness. My dude bought Saucony Grid Stabil's the other day, and is pronouncing them good - very good support and also very lightweight. I still like my Saucony Jazz's, but now they are old and dying and I am also interested in the responses to James Robert's question. Joooooliet James Roberts wrote: > > What are the best footbag net shoes available? > > Thanks, > JR > DFC From owner-footbag@footbag.org Tue Apr 13 08:01:29 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA15698 for FBfootbag-outgoing@eniac.yak.net; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:01:29 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from [207.96.209.249] by sims-ha.videotron.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.03.08.20.27) with ESMTP id <0F9K00IBLULKYR@sims-ha.videotron.net> for footbag@footbag.org; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:39:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 14:47:04 -0500 From: Martin Cote Subject: Re: [footbag] Net Shoes To: James Roberts , "'Footbag'" Message-id: <0F9K00IBMULKYR@sims-ha.videotron.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org > What are the best footbag net shoes available? > > Thanks, > JR > DFC Hi James, I'm not sure if we met before. I remember a James Roberts from Texas who was more into freestyling at the time (87-88) I'm sure there's quite a few good shoes out there. The problem is once you find one good model they are only available for one season. Anyway i found what in my opinion the best shoe for net to be Brooks beast, the 1998 model. They have adequate grip and they're made for lateral movement. They look bumpy at first but they're easy to sand. With a bit of triming you can get one of the flattest inside surface for a net shoe. But still, i was not yet completly satisfied when i bought them. The outsides were perfect but i wanted the inside to be as flat as a ping pong paddle. I saw before people putting patches on the inside of their shoes. I think the first who did it was someone called "dutch" holland in 86-87. Can't remember his first name, anyway it was pretty impressive at the time. I think he did it for speed consecutive mostly. And alf Magnuson (no idea how to write his name) did one pair too before he retired. And not to forget Andrew morgan who got a shoemaker to do it for him. I always thought i would be too difficult to do it myself, but one day i decided to give it a try. I went to a shoemaker and asked him some crepe (not sure how to write it) It's a sole replacement material i think.I explained him what i wanted to do and he said crepe was difficult to work, so he suggested me an other material, don't know the name. It's black and it can be 1/2 or 1 inch thick. First i scrape the inside of shoes so that it would be as flat as possible. (but you always end up with a kind of curve. that's why you need a patch) Then i cut a peice of material to fit the inside the shoe. With a drill and a grindstone tip i sanded the patch to fit as closely as possible to the shape of the shoe. It can take quite some time to do a good job but it's worth it. I use shoegoo glue to stick the patch to the shoe. I work pretty well. And at last you need something to hold tight both piece for about 12 hours, (don't know the word for it in english). If you use a lot your inside, it's well worth it especially for spike serve, round house, and inside sets. I can see the results not only for myself. I did a pair for a friend and i could see the immediate results. His round house are a lot more consistant. He's got now a pretty good serve (he doen't put half of them in the net anymore as i did myself too.) You know i always wish a shoe company would make the perfect shoe for footbag one day. But i don't think that day is nowhere near. Check the freestylers, they cut off all the extra weight of their shoes and trick the tip of their shoes to have better control for toe stall. But for net players you will rarely see them touch the shape of their shoes. I see more and more players using mainly their outside kick (i was about to give up on my inside myself) because that was the only reliable surface to play with. But i'm sure that with more predictable inside surface it can help a lot of net player to get more consistent With this in mind you can look for shoes with good outside and manage to work the inside with a patch. That could broaden your choice a lot when you go to the store. I also have my idea of what could be the ultimate net bag, but i think i'll keep that for an other discussion. Martin Cote By the way there will be windchill tournament soon 10-11 april, here in Montreal. It will be mostly a net tournament but if enough freestylers show up we'll have probably 2 round of freestyle. I will post more info soon on the event web page at www.footbag.org From owner-footbag@footbag.org Sat Apr 17 00:54:53 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA02881 for FBfootbag-outgoing@eniac.yak.net; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:54:53 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from smtp.thegrid.net (smtp.thegrid.net [209.162.1.11]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA27052 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:09:27 -0700 Received: (qmail 21060 invoked from network); 16 Apr 1999 19:09:26 -0000 Received: from pop.thegrid.net (209.162.1.5) by smtp.thegrid.net with SMTP; 16 Apr 1999 19:09:26 -0000 Received: from fpgcswgi (lax-ts4-h2-45-241.ispmodems.net [209.162.45.241]) by pop.thegrid.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA29736 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: From: "Scott Cleere" To: Subject: [footbag] lost footbag & thx Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:12:19 -0700 Message-ID: <000001be883d$0cc6f2a0$f12da2d1@fpgcswgi> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Looking for the net bag I left at the So Cal tourney, Brent, Lisa, PT??? Anyone remember doing anything with a 42 panel b&w with red and blue single panels? Great job Opps!!! Staff!! Thank you. Great playing:-) From owner-footbag@footbag.org Sat Apr 17 00:54:34 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA02876 for FBfootbag-outgoing@eniac.yak.net; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:54:34 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f From: Ariel Santesteban Received: from waddle.excite.com (waddle-rwcmta.excite.com [198.3.99.222]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA32306 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:50:02 -0700 Received: from pounce.excite.com ([199.172.152.99]) by waddle.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990416234924.QDHJ298.waddle@pounce.excite.com> for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:49:24 -0700 To: footbag@footbag.org Subject: [footbag] Kansas Open? Heartland? Message-Id: <924306566.21994.767@excite.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:49:26 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 143.166.82.240 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Does anyone know the status of the Kansas Open or the Heartland regional tourneys. I expected to hear something about these by this tme in the year. I ask because I was hoping to attend, of course... thanks ariel _______________________________________________________ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From owner-footbag@footbag.org Sun Apr 18 02:19:04 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA05607 for FBfootbag-outgoing@eniac.yak.net; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 02:19:04 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from ns1.aplatform.com (root@ns1.aplatform.com [204.29.139.2]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA18089 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 18:43:21 -0700 Received: from [204.29.139.80] (jcaveney.aplatform.com [204.29.139.80]) by ns1.aplatform.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA05713 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 18:43:20 -0700 X-Sender: jcaveney@aplatform.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 18:43:23 -0700 To: footbag@footbag.org From: Jim Caveney Subject: [footbag] Partner needed for Western Regionals Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org I am currently without a partner for Western Regionals. Who's coming to Western Regionals and does not yet have a partner for Open Doubles? Send me an e-mail if you're interested. From owner-footbag@footbag.org Mon Apr 19 02:07:37 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA08115 for FBfootbag-outgoing@eniac.yak.net; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 02:07:37 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from hamp.hampshire.edu (atb98@hamp.hampshire.edu [192.33.12.137]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA05270 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 18:52:28 -0700 Received: from localhost (atb98@localhost) by hamp.hampshire.edu (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA04501; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:59:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:59:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "Andrew T. Bosher" To: Tara Ohr cc: footbag@footbag.org Subject: Re: [footbag] teaching the skills In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Hey Ya'll, One way I have found to really draw the attention of your students into the game of footbag is to teach them how to stitch. if they make them then they will each have one to kick aorund and they will have some personal investment into the activity. Stitching is a really easy skill to pick up and it isn't too hard for kids as well. You can learn a basic four pannel with a kit from the footbag mart. You could also check out Daniel Botkins web stight. He does some footbag education and he has some patterns which you can print out. His address is dbotkin@valinet.com. He will also have some suggestions on teaching. (www.valinet.com/~dbotkin). -Andrew Bosher On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Tara Ohr wrote: > Okay, here's the story. I work at a sports club in Chico and I'm thinking > about starting up a footbag class for youngsters. I'm not that advanced in > the sport, but I can hold my own. I love teaching little kids and thought > it would be a good idea to teach the skills of footbag to the younger > generations. I know there are pros who travel and do seminars around the > country. Does anyone have some advice on how to begin the class or what > steps should be taken to insure the best program? > > Thanks for your help, Tara Ohr > From owner-footbag@footbag.org Mon Apr 19 14:38:40 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA09485 for FBfootbag-outgoing@eniac.yak.net; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:38:40 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from vortex.more.net (vortex.more.net [198.209.253.70]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14625 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 06:17:17 -0700 Received: from mlerf.org (mail.mlerf.org [207.160.128.29]) by vortex.more.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA23460 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:17:15 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: [footbag] Kansas Open? Heartland? Message-Id: <000000867433007372633@mlerf.org> From: dfogle@mlerf.org (Derrick Fogle, MLERF) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:17:13 -0500 Organization: MLERF X-Mailer: CommuniGate 3.1 Reply-To: dfogle@mlerf.org (Derrick Fogle, MLERF) To: footbag@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org On Fri, Apr 16, 1999, 6:49:26 PM US CST Ariel Santesteban wrote: >Does anyone know the status of the Kansas Open or the Heartland regional >tourneys. The Kansas Footbag Open is happening. May 15th and 16th in Wichita Kansas. They've even got live remote radio broadcasts, a list of 14 sponsors, and a little bit of prize money. I encourage everyone that can to attend! http://www.footbag.org/calendar/show/922792732 The Heartland Regional is not happening this year. Maybe next year. BTW, I rolled my other (right) ankle Saturday. Not nearly as bad as when I hurt my left ankle 2 years ago (almost to the day I might add). But I will be out of kicking commission for 3-4 weeks probably. Bummer. ______________________________________ Derrick Fogle From owner-footbag@footbag.org Tue Apr 20 02:29:07 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA12289 for FBfootbag-outgoing@eniac.yak.net; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 02:29:07 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f From: Kendall KIC Received: from KendallKIC@aol.com by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20.11) id hDDEa18186 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:33:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36b3a290.244d335e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:33:18 EDT Subject: [footbag] State Games in Eugene To: footbag@eniac.yak.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Reply-To: KendallKIC@aol.com Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Hey Ya'll If you need a hotel to stay in while attending the State Games of Oregon Footbag Tournament in Eugene 5/15-16 try the following: Barron Travel Lodge 1-800- 578-7878 $57.60 for 2 double beds 1859 Franklin Blvd Across the street from the U of O local number is 541-342-6383. It has a jacuzzi and breakfast snacks. See you there, Kendall, Kenny and Jasper From owner-footbag@footbag.org Mon Apr 26 22:32:48 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA01318 for FBfootbag-outgoing@eniac.yak.net; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:32:48 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from default - 208.255.148.63 by email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:08:18 -0700 Message-ID: <004201be8fef$37318320$3f94ffd0@default> From: "Tina Lewis" To: footbag@footbag.org Subject: [footbag] Second Graders can Kick! Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:15:18 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Well for all of you interested in developing footbaggers I saw an amazing 8 year old this weekend at Southern Regionals. Jordan Hinojos from Dallas kicked 243 in his 5 minute-timed consecutives. To keep my guy (alex) interested (and because he wants to compete) We started a modified 5-minute junior consecutives where you don't count rights or lefts or drops. Alex can kick about 4 consecutives in a row using his right left but most of the time he just kicks it and catches it - which I find duly impressive. But in Dallas another 2d grader showed up with his dad and this kid did beautiful right and left insides and was kicking over 10 in a row with perfect form. Alex's kick and catch method netted him 99 kicks in 5 minutes but Jordan had it down and had surpassed 150 at the 3 minute mark and kept going. It was truly amazing and blew away my assumption that kids really don't have the coordination til 4th or 5th grade! Oh yeah the rest of the tournament was GREAT, Great site, Great competitors and Great weather for the most part. Thanks Dallas! Tina. From owner-footbag@footbag.org Tue Apr 27 12:09:01 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA04425 for FBfootbag-outgoing@eniac.yak.net; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:09:01 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f From: Ariel Santesteban Received: from stinger.excite.com (stinger-rwcmta.excite.com [198.3.99.220]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA17908 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:01:25 -0700 Received: from pounce.excite.com ([199.172.152.99]) by stinger.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990427001048.UJZK26640.stinger@pounce.excite.com> for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:10:48 -0700 To: footbag@footbag.org Subject: [footbag] great net picture online Message-Id: <925171844.6135.560@excite.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:10:44 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 143.166.99.242 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org To see an award-winning picture of footbag net please go to http://www.dallas.net/~mhancock/z24foot.html The picture is of James Harley and Jeremiah Vigil jousting over the net. It is from 1998 Southern Regionals. Since these 2 bad boys and their partners were in the finals again this past weekend at the 1999 Southerns, you can just pretend it was from this year :) ariel _______________________________________________________ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ From owner-footbag@footbag.org Wed Apr 28 09:36:08 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA08217 for FBfootbag-outgoing@eniac.yak.net; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:36:08 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08214 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:36:07 GMT Received: from spectre.atext.com (spectre.atext.com [204.62.245.27]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA11631 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:38:20 -0700 Received: from [216.111.252.191] (dhcp216-111-252-191 [216.111.252.191]) by spectre.atext.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25136 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:37:47 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Sender: brat@market.net (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <925171844.6135.560@excite.com> References: <925171844.6135.560@excite.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:40:12 -0700 To: footbag@footbag.org From: Steve Goldberg Subject: Re: [footbag] great net picture online Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org At 5:10 PM -0700 4/26/99, Ariel Santesteban wrote: >Since these 2 bad boys and their partners were in the finals again this past >weekend at the 1999 Southerns, you >can just pretend it was from this year :) Ahem, *again*? Unfortunately, I wasn't at last weekend's event, but if my memory serves me, I was the partner setting one of those "bad boys" last year when that picture was taken. :-( Too bad they didn't catch my high-flyin' net action. Oh, wait, that's right, I was just setting the whole time. :-) Man, that Jeremiah is a machine. Steve From owner-footbag@footbag.org Fri Apr 30 13:43:48 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA17913 for FBfootbag-outgoing@eniac.yak.net; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:43:48 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f Received: from iquest3.iquest.net (iquest3.iquest.net [209.43.20.203]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA27529 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:31:27 -0700 Message-Id: <199904281731.KAA27529@Market.NET> Received: (qmail 304 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 17:30:45 -0000 Received: from iq-ind-as009-208.iquest.net (HELO iquest.net?) (209.43.62.208) by iquest3.iquest.net with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 17:30:45 -0000 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:33:58 -0700 From: Eric Brown X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: footbag@footbag.org Subject: [footbag] Need help with footbag Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org Hello all! I have been kicking for 4 years now and I love it. N- E wayz, I am writing an argumentative research paper on footbag (basically a persuasive letter to my brother arguing why he should try it, 4-6 pages). I was wondering if anyone out there could give me some information about why you started footbagging, health benefits, tournaments etc... all information is very much appreciated. Thanks! Sincerely, Eric R. Brown Freshman, Ball state University Muncie, Indiana From owner-footbag@footbag.org Fri Apr 30 13:45:26 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eniac.yak.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA17924 for FBfootbag-outgoing@eniac.yak.net; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:45:26 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: eniac.yak.net: majordom set sender to owner-footbag@footbag.org using -f From: Ariel Santesteban Received: from hissy.excite.com (hissy-rwcmta.excite.com [198.3.99.229]) by Market.NET (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04723 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:02:13 -0700 Received: from derby.excite.com ([199.172.152.144]) by hissy.excite.com (InterMail v4.00.03.11 201-229-104-111) with ESMTP id <19990429000127.FFPX14616.hissy@derby.excite.com> for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:01:27 -0700 To: footbag@footbag.org Subject: Re: [footbag] great net picture online Message-Id: <925344088.28235.990@excite.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:01:28 PDT X-Mailer: Excite Mail X-Sender-Ip: 143.166.99.242 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-footbag@footbag.org On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:10:44 PDT, Ariel Santesteban wrote: > Since these 2 bad boys and their partners were in the finals again this > past weekend at the 1999 Southerns... Sorry Steve, to clarify James Harley and Jeremiah Vigil (the ones in the picture) were in doubles finals again, but they each had different partners this year. No disrespect to Steve Goldberg or Dave Spears (last years finalists). BTW, this year Harley partnered with Steve Smith; Vigil was partnered with James Roberts. Everybody missed you this year, Steve. See you at Westerns... ariel _______________________________________________________ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/