From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Sun Jul 2 02:42:49 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA15822 for freestyle-outgoing; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 02:42:49 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from foundationcomputing.net (foundationcomputing.org [207.160.174.55]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13212 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 09:48:38 -0700 Received: from [207.160.174.20] ([207.160.174.20] verified) by foundationcomputing.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.2.4) with ESMTP id 41813 for freestyle@footbag.org; Sat, 01 Jul 2000 06:47:12 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 11:47:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [freestyle] German's are gross! From: Derrick Fogle To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20000630200814.2948.qmail@web1006.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org on 6/30/00 3:08 PM, Ahren Gehrman at torchbap@yahoo.com wrote: > So to all you trash talking newbies, shut your mouths > and know your roles, or pull down you pants 'cause > you're gonna get SPANKED! Just like I did. Surly gatekeepers with spears and axes. Ah, what a fine invitation to the game. ____________________________ Derrick Fogle Still studying at the old school footbag U From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Sun Jul 2 02:44:55 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA15846 for freestyle-outgoing; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 02:44:55 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from web804.mail.yahoo.com (web804.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.64]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA23558 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 15:45:18 -0700 Received: (qmail 8302 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Jul 2000 22:45:18 -0000 Message-ID: <20000701224518.8301.qmail@web804.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20000630200814.2948.qmail@web1006.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.14.191.183] by web804.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 01 Jul 2000 15:45:18 PDT Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 15:45:18 -0700 (PDT) From: James Risden Subject: Re: [freestyle] German's are gross! To: freestyle@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org --- Ahren Gehrman wrote: > Respect your > elders, Good point! I see the light. I should respect all you shredheads. Some of you guys were busting ripwalks before I could even walk! Speaking of ripwalks, since I'm posting anyway, yesterday I broke my old ripwalk record. Now ive got 28. YAAAAAAY!!! > and know your roles, or pull down you pants 'cause > you're gonna get SPANKED! Just like I did. I think im gonna know my role, my mouth is closed! (pants still up) Im going to shred. Later, Jamez From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Sun Jul 2 02:49:52 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA15878 for freestyle-outgoing; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 02:49:52 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f From: Will Wells Received: from symail.syda.org (hidden-user@symail.syda.org [208.130.6.77]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23527 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 15:43:46 -0700 Received: by EXCH01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 18:43:52 -0400 Message-ID: <9DBED19EBBD8D311AA70009027786C192013A3@EXCH01> To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] Millenium Laver Mods Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 18:43:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hey all, My millenium lavers don't seem to be helping with my toe stalls. Has anyone done any mods in the toe area that they could share. I am especially interested in if anyone has removed the layer of foam that is present in the tongue as well as the sides. Any tips. My toe box is more of a toe board... 9which is not bad but the stalls slip off. Thanks, Will Wells From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Sun Jul 2 02:51:34 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA15896 for freestyle-outgoing; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 02:51:34 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from Market.NET (market.net [140.174.206.2]) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA15893 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 02:51:33 -0700 Received: from fep2.excitehome.net (fep2.excitehome.net [24.0.26.113]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA28849 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:18:51 -0700 Received: from [24.16.24.8] by fep2.excitehome.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000702021845.RNUV26825.fep2.excitehome.net@[24.16.24.8]> for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:18:45 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: brat@140.174.206.2 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:18:43 -0700 To: freestyle@footbag.org From: Steve Goldberg Subject: Re: [freestyle] German's are gross! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org At 11:47 AM -0500 7/1/00, Derrick Fogle wrote: >Surly gatekeepers with spears and axes. Ah, what a fine invitation to the >game. Shut up and sit down, OLD MAN! :-) Steve From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Sun Jul 2 02:52:13 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA15914 for freestyle-outgoing; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 02:52:13 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f From: Will Wells Received: from symail.syda.org (hidden-user@symail.syda.org [208.130.6.77]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23526 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 15:43:46 -0700 Received: by EXCH01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 18:43:52 -0400 Message-ID: <9DBED19EBBD8D311AA70009027786C192013A4@EXCH01> To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] Stepping and Pixie Sets Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 18:43:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hello Everyone, Today I was practicing (All by myself) :( and I was wondering if anyone has some tips on the Stepping and Pixie sets. There doesn't seem to be a section on the webpage per say and was wondering if any of you masters of those sets could share some wisdom for me to put into action. I have my clippers and butterflys pretty much down but need to work on my sets so I can start doing double dex moves. I can "kinda" do the stepping set but all I can do from it is inside stall or toe stall. And with the pixie set I either do the same or a no plant to something. Thanks in advance for your help. Will Wells Yesterday I hit infinity (Butterfly > Op Side Butterfly) couldn't keep it going though. I also hit the following moves minus the plants in them. ;) Toe Ripwalk? (Miraging Buttefly) TOE > OP IN (Plant) > OP OUT > OP CLIP Pixie Butterfly (Quantum Butterfly) TOE > SAME IN (Plant) > OP OUT > OP CLIP From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Sun Jul 2 02:56:33 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA15977 for freestyle-outgoing; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 02:56:33 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from dnvrpop2.dnvr.uswest.net (dnvrpop2.dnvr.uswest.net [206.196.128.4]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA28305 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:03:32 -0700 Received: (qmail 77604 invoked by alias); 2 Jul 2000 02:03:32 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-Freestyle@footbag.org@fixme Received: (qmail 77582 invoked by uid 0); 2 Jul 2000 02:03:31 -0000 Received: from rdialup152.dnvr.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (216.160.172.152) by dnvrpop2.dnvr.uswest.net with SMTP; 2 Jul 2000 02:03:31 -0000 Message-ID: <395EA2BB.A271268C@uswest.net> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 20:02:35 -0600 From: "Matt Wafaie" Reply-To: mattius@uswest.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freestyle@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] Leg Hair/colorado events Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Anyone ever noticed that freestyling rips all the hair off your legs. The constant rubbing of my shorts above my knees as I lift my legs has made me balder than... something bald. Are there any events comming up anytime soon in Colorado I could attend? I want some footbaggin' excitement and I won't be at worlds. M@ Wafaie From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Sun Jul 2 03:04:26 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA16031 for freestyle-outgoing; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 03:04:26 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f From: Evan Edmondson Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.2]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA29179 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 19:27:44 -0700 Received: from ThisBeEvan@aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v27.10.) id z.e2.68e223b (2615) for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 22:26:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9DBED19EBBD8D311AA70009027786C192013A3@EXCH01> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 22:26:49 EDT Subject: Re: [freestyle] Millenium Laver Mods To: freestyle@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 108 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Thought I add in my opinion, this is the reason i DIDN'T get millinium laver's. The toe box looked too small to me plus when I put them on I swear I thought they were heavier than my old plain rod lavers too. Anyone else agree? Anyone ever weighed them? People tell me they are a whole lot lighter (the millenium's that is) but I don't think so. -evan edmondson From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Sun Jul 2 03:54:59 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA16483 for freestyle-outgoing; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 03:54:59 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net (tisch.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.157]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA30965 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 20:18:49 -0700 Received: from smegma.mindspring.com (user-2ivf0vg.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.131.240]) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA17443 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:18:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.1.20000701230903.00b9b1c0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: ecrvich@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 23:16:14 -0400 To: freestyle@footbag.org From: Ernest Crvich Subject: Re: [freestyle] German's are gross! In-Reply-To: <20000701224518.8301.qmail@web804.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20000630200814.2948.qmail@web1006.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org At 03:45 PM 7/1/00 -0700, James Risden wrote: >shredheads. Some of you guys were busting ripwalks >before I could even walk! Wait a minute...are you trying to say that some of us are really old?! Geez, Jamez, you need to cut your losses (like a bad stock pick) before this gets ugly. ;^) >yesterday I broke my old ripwalk record. Now ive got >28. YAAAAAAY!!! Today I had a lot of fun shredding and I don't even remember or care what exactly it was that I hit. Yay! -- Ernest M. Crvich Durham, NC Have footbag, will shred. http://www.mindspring.com/~ecrvich From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Sun Jul 2 03:55:28 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA16494 for freestyle-outgoing; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 03:55:28 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net (blount.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.226]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA30520 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 20:08:43 -0700 Received: from smegma.mindspring.com (user-2ivf0vg.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.131.240]) by blount.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA30777 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2000 23:08:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.1.20000701223237.00b9a8f0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: ecrvich@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2000 23:05:52 -0400 To: freestyle@footbag.org From: Ernest Crvich Subject: Re: [freestyle] Millenium Laver Mods In-Reply-To: References: <9DBED19EBBD8D311AA70009027786C192013A3@EXCH01> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Evan Edmondson wrote: > this is the reason i DIDN'T get millinium laver's. The toe box looked too >small to me plus when I put them on I swear I thought they were heavier than >my old plain rod lavers too. Indeed, the weight difference isn't that significant. Per pair, all size 11.5 US (each have about the same number of days worth of use, and all are already modified [goo on the Millenniums, cotton fabric tubes/rails on the Reeboks]): Original Lavers : 31 oz Millenniums : 28 oz Reebok Classics : 25 oz The Reebok Classics (NOT the all-leather ones...get the cheapo vinyl/canvas/catflesh/whatever ones) are noticeably lighter and more "cushiony" (comfy)...build yourself some toe rails and you'll be a very happy shredder. After shredding in Reeboks one day, and Millenniums the next, the latter feels more clumsy and awkward to me. In fact, of the three, I do believe the Millenniums are my least favorite. Other than having to build rails, the Reeboks' only other disadvantage for me is the narrow/tapered toe...which can cause my toes some chafing pain after a while. > Anyone else agree? Anyone ever weighed them? People tell me they are a >whole lot lighter (the millenium's that is) but I don't think so. They are a little bit lighter, but not noticeably so IMHO...probably because the Millenniums are larger/wider (which might explain why you feel they are heavier). The difference is more psychological than actual, I think. But as always, YMMV. -- Ernest M. Crvich Durham, NC Have footbag, will shred. http://www.mindspring.com/~ecrvich From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Sun Jul 2 15:23:24 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA17429 for freestyle-outgoing; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 15:23:24 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from www0k.netaddress.usa.net ([204.68.24.40]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA17618 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 06:57:04 -0700 Received: (qmail 18722 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Jul 2000 13:56:04 -0000 Message-ID: <20000702135604.18721.qmail@www0k.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.40 by www0k for [24.147.248.251] via web-mailer(34WB1.4.03) on Sun Jul 2 13:56:04 GMT 2000 Date: 2 Jul 00 09:56:04 EDT From: Gary Heffernan To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] Pendulum X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (34WB1.4.03) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by list.footbag.org id OAA17351 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org hey all, thanks to everyone who gave me those tips on the ATW, i finally hit one the other day! but now i got another question, Does anyone know where i can see a vid of someone doing a pendulum? or can someone explain it in great detail to me? because i am really having a lot of trouble doing it. thanks again, Gary ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Mon Jul 3 03:35:58 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA18786 for freestyle-outgoing; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 03:35:58 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from ux4.isu.edu (mta@ux4.isu.edu [134.50.250.16]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20524 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 09:07:29 -0700 Received: from isu.edu ([134.50.103.12]) by ux4.isu.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA3A73; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 10:07:51 -0600 Message-ID: <395F6A41.7985738A@isu.edu> Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 10:13:53 -0600 From: Bob Green X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mattius@uswest.net, "freestyle@footbag.org" Subject: Re: [freestyle] Leg Hair/colorado events References: <395EA2BB.A271268C@uswest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hey freestylers (especially those of you in Colorado)! Matt Wafaie wondered: > Are there any events comming up anytime soon in > Colorado I could attend? I want some footbaggin' excitement > and I won't be at worlds. I don't know about Colorado, but the 2000 Southeast Idaho Footbag Championships are coming up July 15th (2 weeks from now) in Pocatello, Idaho. The tournament is about a 10-11 hour drive from the Boulder area, and should be a lot of fun. Any of you who could come from Colorado would have a free place to crash. Additionally, for those of you who have an inkling of desire to visit Yellowstone National Park, Pocatello is only about 1.5-2.0 hours away. Here's the skinny on the tournament for those of you who are interested. In exchange for a $9.00 entry fee, the first 25 registered competitors will recieve a 4-panel Paul Mestas Footbag and a tournament T-shirt. If you are coming from out of town, let me know and I will reserve a shirt for you. For beginners there will be consecutives, 3 person team consecutives and a 1-1.5 minute freestyle. I am staying away from timed consecutives for beginners so that people who are truly beginners won't end up with a negative score. For advanced (intermediates and pros would fall under this category), there will be a 5-minute timed consecutives and a 1.5-2 minute freestyle. We will have our own sound system, so feel free to bring your own music for freestyle routines and jamming. The tournament is being held in conjunction with the "Hot Time in Old Town" Pocatello Streetfest. Accordingly, there will be food and beer vendors, sidewalk sales, a kids carnival, 4 different bands (rock, reggae, etc.), and other cool stuff. Sponsors for the tournament include Paul Mestas, Boulder Blades Productions, Idaho State University Footbag Club, Old Town Pocatello, and several local Businesses. Streetfestival organizers from Old Town Pocatello are even working on getting a mountain bike sponsored from a local shop called Scott's Ski and Sport. I don't know if the bike thing will happen or not, but there are already a lot of small prizes. Sorry pros, no prize money this year.....hopefully next year. The more competitors I can get this year, the better chance ISU Footbag has of getting supplemental funding from the University for a tournament next year! Current definate attendees include Jim Pomey from Salt Lake City, Jim Penske of Rexburg, Bob Green of Pocatello (me), several other local kickers, and hopefully you! Alright, I'm done pitching now.....it is not naturally what I do well anyway. Seriously though, it should be a lot of fun and I encourage anyone within a days drive to come. Hope to see some of you soon, Bob From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Mon Jul 3 03:39:47 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA18798 for freestyle-outgoing; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 03:39:47 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f From: Evan Edmondson Received: from imo-r09.mx.aol.com (imo-r09.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.9]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20567 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 09:09:12 -0700 Received: from ThisBeEvan@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v27.10.) id z.c.7547fa3 (4535) for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 12:08:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20000702135604.18721.qmail@www0k.netaddress.usa.net> Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 12:08:38 EDT Subject: Re: [freestyle] Pendulum To: Freestyle@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 108 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org This is to Gary and everyone else who is new to the wonderful sport of freestyle. GET KENNY SHULTS TRICKS OF THE TRADE VIDEO! Its got step by step and slow motion of pendulum, + alot of other tricks. I recommend it very much that you get it. It helped me, O-lot. Just go to www.worldfootbag.com. The address directly to the vidoes section is http://www.worldfootbag.com/catman/showgroup/extra. Hope This Helps Evan Edmondson From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Mon Jul 3 03:40:34 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA18816 for freestyle-outgoing; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 03:40:34 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (law-f159.hotmail.com [209.185.131.222]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA25996 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 12:12:19 -0700 Received: (qmail 91579 invoked by uid 0); 2 Jul 2000 19:11:49 -0000 Message-ID: <20000702191149.91578.qmail@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20000702135604.18721.qmail@www0k.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 62.157.66.173 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 02 Jul 2000 12:11:49 PDT X-Originating-IP: [62.157.66.173] From: "Fabian Kollakowski" To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: Re: [freestyle] Pendulum Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 19:11:49 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Gary Heffernan wrote: >but now i got another question, Does anyone know where i can see a >vid of someone doing a pendulum? go to http://www.footbagfreestyle.de/ , and download that clip : ps050002.mpg anyway, i think pendulum isnt that easy at the beginning i had problems hitting it at first have fun fabian From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Mon Jul 3 03:40:49 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA18829 for freestyle-outgoing; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 03:40:49 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f267.hotmail.com [216.32.180.225]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA30125 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 14:28:31 -0700 Received: (qmail 67884 invoked by uid 0); 2 Jul 2000 21:28:00 -0000 Message-ID: <20000702212800.67883.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 64.10.89.247 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 02 Jul 2000 14:28:00 PDT X-Originating-IP: [64.10.89.247] From: "Mickey Mayer" To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] eggbeater/atomic set Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 17:28:00 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hey people, Hope everyone's doing great. I have a question regarding the eggbeater. I know there are two ways of doing an eggbeater, either from an atomic set or a regular set. Now my question is, which one of these two gives you the most respect and which one is the best one to start skooling? Thanks, The Mouse P.S. While I'm still standing on my little soapbox crying out to the world, I'd like to mention the upcoming tourney in Montreal from July 7-9. This tourney is gonna rock so come one, come all!!! From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Mon Jul 3 03:42:51 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA18853 for freestyle-outgoing; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 03:42:51 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA08817 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 20:01:37 -0700 Received: from billy ([63.199.202.217]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0FX3004DAPPL59@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for freestyle@footbag.org; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 20:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 20:01:22 -0700 From: Sam Colclough Subject: [freestyle] Lavers, old and new To: Freestyle Mailing List Message-id: <001101bfe49a$f8786700$9b66fea9@billy> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org any more info on where to get millenium rod lavers? Or does anyone have a size 12 1/2 or 13? Thanks also http://www.sneakers.pair.com/csm-lavr.htm its a memory of rod laver shoes by adidas and it mentions footbag.. whatever, i thought it was cool / o\ \O ( /_/ | \/\ / \_ | / /|\ \ ___/_|_\___ You get what you give /o /\ / ? |_ | O /O | /|\ /|\ / \ ___/_|_\___| | -Sam Colclough From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Mon Jul 3 17:58:49 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA20230 for freestyle-outgoing; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:58:49 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from ewey.excite.com (ewey-rwcmta.excite.com [198.3.99.191]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23657 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 10:18:43 -0700 Received: from magic.excite.com ([199.172.148.161]) by ewey.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20000703171840.CCBB11200.ewey.excite.com@magic.excite.com> for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 10:18:40 -0700 Message-ID: <22118718.962644720275.JavaMail.imail@magic.excite.com> In-Reply-To: <20000702212800.67883.qmail@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 10:18:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Yacine Merzouk To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: Re: [freestyle] eggbeater/atomic set Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 207.96.202.13 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hello Mickey and all! How's life? Ready for the tournament in Montreal this week-end? Mickey Mayer wrote: > Hey people, > > Hope everyone's doing great. I have a question regarding the eggbeater. I > know there are two ways of doing an eggbeater, either from an atomic set or > a regular set. Now my question is, which one of these two gives you the most > respect and which one is the best one to start skooling? You can do it both ways and people will respect you for hitting a nice-looking and hard move. If you have a good atomic set, you can do it that way and it can be easier but remember that you better skool it the other way as well if you want to hit bubba-style eggbeater or paradox eggbeater. I personnaly think that the original version eggbeater is easier. See you soon! -Yacine _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Mon Jul 3 17:59:57 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA20246 for freestyle-outgoing; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:59:57 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from firefly.prairienet.org (firefly.prairienet.org [192.17.3.3]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA12332 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 22:04:16 -0700 Received: from bluestem (bluestem.prairienet.org [192.17.3.4]) by firefly.prairienet.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA24705; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 00:04:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 00:04:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Philip Summers X-Sender: konrad@bluestem To: Mickey Mayer cc: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: Re: [freestyle] eggbeater/atomic set In-Reply-To: <20000702212800.67883.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org The way I see it, an eggbeater is a straight move - no set. The other way is an atmoic switchover. I would say skool them both, don't skip any basic/intermediate level skills. Practice your eggbeaters with your dlos and practice atomic switchover with atomsmasher and legbeater. I like to drill several moves together which share similar components. actually, there's a lot of serious shredders out there who will call "set > op out > op out > same toe" an eggbeater no matter how it's done. Atomic switchover is just as much an eggbeater as reverse miraging switchover, even though I don't think so. phil From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Mon Jul 3 19:31:19 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA20641 for freestyle-outgoing; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 19:31:19 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from mail7.cadvision.com (IDENT:root@mail7.cadvision.com [207.228.64.92]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26040 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 11:23:04 -0700 Received: from default (h-207-148-138-178.dial.cadvision.com [207.148.138.178]) by mail7.cadvision.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/CWT/DCE) with SMTP id MAA27742 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:23:02 -0600 Reply-To: "Robin Fuller" From: "Robin Fuller" To: Subject: [freestyle] Newbie tricks I can do/atomic sets Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:18:06 -0700 Message-ID: <01bf797b$b81b5300$b28a94cf@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hi everyone this is my first time contributing to this list.I am a 14 year old newbie who has been freestylin' since the beggining of april but started hardcore practiing just around the middle of june.I can do the following tricks...some are a givin' because of their neccesarity but I'm listing them anyways... toe stall (both sides) inside stall (both sides) outside stall (both sides) clipper (stronger with my right leg but still do-able with left) jester (both sides) butterfly (Stronger with right but left isn't hard to land) butterfly kick (both sides) mirage (set from right toe) leg over (set from left toe,almost got it from the right) pickup (set from left toe, almost got it from the right) pendulum (right side only) rake (right side only) osis (toe set from right side only) walk over (both sides) around the world (right side in/out,still working on left) around the world caught on insides/out/heel (right side in/out) guay (set from left toe) Illusion (set from right toe) I am just wonder about 2 things though.Should I skool' alot harder because I can only do those tricks and mabey 2 or 3 more that I forgot about,or am I good for my age and newness to the sport. Other question,what the hell is an atomic set.I am not starting atomic moves (yet) but I would still like to know what they are. From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Mon Jul 3 20:06:25 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA20801 for freestyle-outgoing; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 20:06:25 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f From: Matthew Cross Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28009 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:14:48 -0700 Received: from MatthewL329@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v27.10.) id z.64.4452d8e (9677) for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:14:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <64.4452d8e.26924001@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <01bf797b$b81b5300$b28a94cf@default> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:14:09 EDT Subject: Re: [freestyle] Newbie tricks I can do/atomic sets To: Freestyle@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 28 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org In a message dated 7/3/00 3:03:41 PM, fullerd@cadvision.com writes: << I am just wonder about 2 things though.Should I skool' alot harder because I can only do those tricks and mabey 2 or 3 more that I forgot about,or am I good for my age and newness to the sport. >> Dear Robin (and any other newbies that were wondering...), STUPID QUESTION!!!! STUPID! STUPID! heh, just kidding, but don't ever get the idea that it's time to lay back and stop skooling. You should ALWAYS skool a lot harder. Now, that's not to say that you're not doing very well, because, judging by what you said, it seems that you are. Kudos to you, but DON'T STOP NOW! If you're on a roll, keep it up. This sport needs new stylers, and it's always great to see a newbie doing well. Don't only skool yourself. Skool your friends, do it at rock concerts for promotion. Keep up the good work, Matthew Cross Rome, NY, the Footbag Wasteland of the East Coast From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Mon Jul 3 20:07:28 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA20816 for freestyle-outgoing; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 20:07:28 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f From: Matthew Cross Received: from imo-r09.mx.aol.com (imo-r09.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.9]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28447 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:26:18 -0700 Received: from MatthewL329@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v27.10.) id z.c8.7073e84 (9677) for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:25:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 15:25:40 EDT Subject: [freestyle] NYers Shred the K-Rockathon! To: freestyle@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 28 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org To all New Yorkers, This coming sunday, there is a huge rock and roll concert at the new york state fair grounds. It's $20 for 15 bands including the Foo Fighters, Jimmie's Chicken Shack, Earthcrisis, and Cowboy Mouth. I'm going to be wearing my lavers, short shorts, and a tank-top, and my Carol bag is coming along (although I'm going to be watching it a LOT more closely than the last one I brought to a concert which is now no longer with me). All shredders anywhere near the New York State Fairgrounds, PLEASE come and represent with me and get some exposure for our sport. I'm going to be having some simply business cards made that just say "www.footbag.org" on them and pass them out to people that ask about freestyle. Anyone who is planning on going, please write me an e-mail and let me know so I can keep my eyes out for lavers in the hack circles. Who knows, maybe we can turn them hack circles into shred circles ;) Matthew Cross From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Mon Jul 3 20:12:41 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA20841 for freestyle-outgoing; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 20:12:41 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from Market.NET (market.net [140.174.206.2]) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA20838 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 20:12:40 -0700 Received: from fep1.excitehome.net (fep1.excitehome.net [24.0.26.112]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28892 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:39:52 -0700 Received: from kaos ([204.62.245.13]) by fep1.excitehome.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000703193946.VDZR1079.fep1.excitehome.net@kaos> for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:39:46 -0700 Received: from [24.16.24.8] by kaos (8.8.8+Sun/Spike-2.0) id MAA06017; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:39:45 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: brat@140.174.206.2 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 12:38:25 -0700 To: freestyle@footbag.org From: Steve Goldberg Subject: Re: [freestyle] NYers Shred the K-Rockathon! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org >(although I'm going to be watching it a LOT more closely than the last >one I brought to a concert which is now no longer with me). Which, by the way, was *BORROWED*. :-) Steve From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Tue Jul 4 02:47:26 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA24118 for freestyle-outgoing; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 02:47:26 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from f04n07.cac.psu.edu (f04s07.cac.psu.edu [128.118.141.35]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04573 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:09:10 -0700 Received: from axs288 (tnt1-145-151.cac.psu.edu [128.118.145.151]) by f04n07.cac.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA55880 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 19:09:09 -0400 Message-Id: <200007032309.TAA55880@f04n07.cac.psu.edu> X-Sender: kxa141@email.psu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 19:06:03 -0400 To: freestyle@footbag.org From: Kaiser Ahmad Subject: Re: [freestyle] NYers Shred the K-Rockathon! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org I am extremely pleased to see that Matt has taken the initiative to inform everyone of this opportunity for exposure. I think that many of us may go to a concert or some other similar event, and when we get there, we start shredding in hopes of getting others to shred. This is a great attempt at exposure. However, Matt's callout has greatly increased the chances of exposure at this event. I personally feel that many of us should follow this example, if you don't already. If you go to a concert or any other event, and you plan on shredding in the process, then let the rest of the footbag community know about it. You may find that other freestylers on this list are more than willing to participate. And Matt, cool idea about the business cards. This way, they may find the card in their pocket later on, and they may visit the site. I commend you for your ideas on this matter. I will make the effort to come out for the event, and hopefully I will be able to make it. >From now on, if I plan on shredding at a major event, then I will do my best to invite other freestylers along, unless if that major event takes place in my bedroom with my girlfriend. Thanks for listening everyone. From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Tue Jul 4 03:29:22 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA24281 for freestyle-outgoing; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 03:29:22 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from f05n15.cac.psu.edu (f05s15.cac.psu.edu [128.118.141.58]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA11765 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 19:48:02 -0700 Received: from integer.psu.edu (ilanna54.shawneelink.net [216.240.67.65]) by f05n15.cac.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA42130 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 22:47:59 -0400 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000703214137.00b1c180@email.psu.edu> In-Reply-To: <200007032309.TAA55880@f04n07.cac.psu.edu> X-Sender: awf108@email.psu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 21:47:51 -0500 To: freestyle@footbag.org From: Alexander Faber Subject: Re: [freestyle] NYers Shred the K-Rockathon! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org I also want to give propz to Matt for the idea to post his message on the web. I've been meaning to give a shout out to anyone in the Southern Illinois area regarding what are called Summer Concerts in Carbondale. Every Thursday at 7pm there's a get together of everyone and their moms (I'm not kidding, the whole damned town is there, it's insane) at either Turley Park or the SIU campus, and I've gotten some really good exposure kicking at these. Anyone that can make it, come on out. There's always footbag circles of various levels of expertise, and if you're down, there's a lot of partying that goes on afterwards. Give me a holler if you want directions or anything like that. I'd be more than happy to provide them. Shred on, everyone. Alex (Integer, of the Penn State Trio) P.S. Regarding Kaiser's comments. . .I've seen his girlfriend. You'd rather not take place in any big events in his bedroom. [You know I'm just playin', Soze. Your woman's dope!] From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Tue Jul 4 20:34:30 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA27172 for freestyle-outgoing; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 20:34:30 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from mail.rdc2.on.home.com (ha1.rdc2.on.home.com [24.9.0.15]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA12709 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 20:09:44 -0700 Received: from cd63049a ([24.108.108.7]) by mail.rdc2.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20000704030938.MMIM14115.mail.rdc2.on.home.com@cd63049a> for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 20:09:38 -0700 Message-ID: <013701bfe565$9962a660$076c6c18@mscord1.mb.wave.home.com> From: "Erik Chan" To: Subject: [freestyle] UNS Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 22:11:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org i..have a question about unusual body part contacts: anything other than the common TOE/INSIDE/OUTSIDE attains an extra ADD for "UNS", correct? should not, then, such contacts as a FOREHEAD delay or SHOULDER delay be considered "unusual body"? [this has been bothering my for a while -- if anybody could lend me an answer.....] also.."infinities" are any ONE move [set from one side catch on OP] linked together, back and forth...right? ~erik [ http://www.geocities.com/hackrifice/ ] <----62 move demonstration videos should be up this saturday ^__^ From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Tue Jul 4 20:41:49 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA27219 for freestyle-outgoing; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 20:41:49 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from Market.NET (market.net [140.174.206.2]) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA27216 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 20:41:48 -0700 Received: from fep2.excitehome.net (fep2.excitehome.net [24.0.26.113]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10091 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:38:18 -0700 Received: from kaos ([204.62.245.13]) by fep2.excitehome.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000704200851.XSRG26825.fep2.excitehome.net@kaos> for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:08:51 -0700 Received: from [24.16.24.8] by kaos (8.8.8+Sun/Spike-2.0) id NAA14833; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: brat@140.174.206.2 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <013701bfe565$9962a660$076c6c18@mscord1.mb.wave.home.com> References: <013701bfe565$9962a660$076c6c18@mscord1.mb.wave.home.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 13:08:57 -0700 To: From: Steve Goldberg Subject: Re: [freestyle] UNS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org At 10:11 PM -0500 7/3/00, Erik Chan wrote: >i..have a question about unusual body part contacts: >anything other than the common TOE/INSIDE/OUTSIDE attains an >extra ADD for "UNS", correct? >should not, then, such contacts as a FOREHEAD delay or >SHOULDER delay be considered "unusual body"? >[this has been bothering my for a while -- if anybody could >lend me an answer.....] Erik, please read the archives -- I posted a long message about this a few months ago. Short version: non-leg contacts can never get any add besides unusual. They are not delays, and they are not bodies. And knee is also considered "usual" (so add that to your list above). No contact with any part of your body aside from your legs/feet can ever get anything more than 1 add (unless combined with other components, obviously, such as a spin). Steve From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Wed Jul 5 06:49:50 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA28782 for freestyle-outgoing; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 06:49:50 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from sfo.jsishipping.com (jsishipping.com [207.33.33.34]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11833 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 15:19:54 -0700 Received: from sfofw1.jsishipping.com ([207.33.33.36]) by sfo.jsishipping.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-64750U500L500S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 14:48:54 -0700 Received: by jsisfo22.jsishipping.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BFE5C6.DA44F1E0@jsisfo22.jsishipping.com>; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 14:48:01 -0700 Message-ID: <01BFE5C6.DA44F1E0@jsisfo22.jsishipping.com> In-Reply-To: From: Eric Wulff To: "'freestyle'" Subject: Re: [freestyle] NYers Shred the K-Rockathon! Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 14:47:55 -0700 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Matt Cross... >I'm going to be having some simply business cards made that just say >"www.footbag.org" on them and pass them out to people that ask about >freestyle right on!... footbag.org is a tremendous website. We need to take advantage of it any way we can. That's what it's for... spread the word... teach the sport. I encourage anyone who can to do this. Business Cards are CHEAP... Eric From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Wed Jul 5 06:50:38 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA28789 for freestyle-outgoing; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 06:50:38 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from sfo.jsishipping.com (jsishipping.com [207.33.33.34]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11943 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 15:25:41 -0700 Received: from sfofw1.jsishipping.com ([207.33.33.36]) by sfo.jsishipping.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-64750U500L500S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 14:54:46 -0700 Received: by jsisfo22.jsishipping.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BFE5C7.AD651A00@jsisfo22.jsishipping.com>; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 14:53:56 -0700 Message-ID: <01BFE5C7.AD651A00@jsisfo22.jsishipping.com> In-Reply-To: From: Eric Wulff To: "'freestyle'" Subject: Re: [freestyle] eggbeater/atomic set Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 14:53:54 -0700 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Philip Summers... >The way I see it, an eggbeater is a straight move - no set. The other way >is an atmoic switchover. I would say skool them both, don't skip any >basic/intermediate level skills. Practice your eggbeaters with your dlos >and practice atomic switchover with atomsmasher and legbeater. right on!... Atomic legover and eggbeater are 2 different moves. Both are set from a toe. However, only one is a toe set. The other is an atomic set(which incorporates an op 'out to in' dexterity within the set of the bag). Eric From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Wed Jul 5 06:52:11 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA28813 for freestyle-outgoing; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 06:52:11 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from www0v.netaddress.usa.net ([204.68.24.51]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA12128 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 15:33:55 -0700 Received: (qmail 22903 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jul 2000 22:03:34 -0000 Message-ID: <20000704220334.22902.qmail@www0v.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.51 by www0v for [24.147.248.251] via web-mailer(34WB1.4.03) on Tue Jul 4 22:03:34 GMT 2000 Date: 4 Jul 00 18:03:34 EDT From: Gary Heffernan To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] Dex Pendulum X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (34WB1.4.03) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by list.footbag.org id WAA27668 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org i have been wondering this for a while and i havent bothered to ask anyone, but why does a Pendulum get an add for DEX? i dont understand exactly and it'd be good if someone could explain, thanks Gary From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Wed Jul 5 07:29:59 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA28914 for freestyle-outgoing; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 07:29:59 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from ewey.excite.com (ewey-rwcmta.excite.com [198.3.99.191]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19677 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 00:23:22 -0700 Received: from patti.excite.com ([199.172.148.159]) by ewey.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20000705065352.DPLU15522.ewey.excite.com@patti.excite.com> for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 23:53:52 -0700 Message-ID: <32909527.962780032575.JavaMail.imail@patti.excite.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 23:53:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Eric Wulff Reply-To: To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] Trivia Style 7 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 216.254.24.241 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hi all... Ironman here with answers to your questions and questions for your answers. Things are really heating up as we come to the final episodes. We will conclude with episode #10 in a couple weeks and someone will have a free entry to worlds compliments of "The Brat" himself. We currently have a tie between a new schooler and an old and Becca's hot on both your heals. Hers goes... pay attention and get back to me ASAP as answers can come at any time. It won't always be a week or 2 between episodes. Current Standings posted below... answers to 6... >1. worth 2 adds for old shoolers and 4 for new schoolers... >Who of the original Big Add Posse is still completely active & >on the cutting edge of style?! Peter "the Executioner" Irish "Rippin" Rick Reese Many missed one or the other which I thought may have been obvious... :( But more of you included some who were not original members. You got deductions accordingly. sorry... >2. Who was the man behind the idea for the original shred contest? Joe Solonoski... he also came up with a service poaching contest, ironman competition, and some other specialty contests which may involve golf or something... :):) These events were the first of their kind and are still held at the Funtastik tourney annually... which is directed by Joe and wife Brenda. Awesome folks... >Who won that original shred contest? "Rippin" Rick Reese This one was tuff and I forgot to post the points worth when I posted the question. It was 4 for new schoolers and 3 for old. New Style #7... 1. Worth 6 adds for new schoolers and 3 adds for old... Name the architects for the Adds System for freestyle scoring. There were 3... I will accept any 2 and give full credit. 2. From the category of "freestyle fringe" and worth 4 adds for new schoolers and 2 for old... Kenny Shults is most definitely the greatest overall footbag player of all time. He is the open player who consistently threatened to win every major footbag title in every tournament he entered until he retired from singles net. I heard he has said, in his latter years of overall competition, "I don't train for net by playing net. I train for net by playing freestyle". I want you to tell me... from the world championship titles listed below... Which has Kenny yet to win? a. Overall World Champion b. Golf c. Mixed Doubles Net e. 5 minute timed consecutives 3. 3 adds... once again... D-Money "The minute I slow-mo'd blur backwards I knew it was a new move right away. In fact Dimitri hit it that same night. We did not have a name for it but" Who named "Legbeater"? Hope you're havin fun... I'm not... :) Ironman > Aaron Edggerton - 7 > Adrian Dick - 6 > Alex Ibardaloza - 6 > Becca - 43 > Bob Green - 10 > Brad Kaplin - 28 > Bryan Fournier - 2 > Corey Current - 12 > Danny Cardonne - 4 > Dave Reid - 5 > Dennis Lee - 3 > Eli Piltz - (-6) > Eric "Wicked" Windsor - 8 > Ernest Crvch - 5 > GF Smoothie - 44 > Ian Dubman - 17 > James Roberts - 2 > Jeremiah J. Riley - 6 > John Schneider - 44 > Ken "Ceiling Fan" Semolinos - 24 > Phillip Summers - 3 > Scott "The Enlightener" Davidson - 11 > Sebastian Duchesne - 10 > Shredstein - 7 > Stan Sagalovskiy - 3 > Tina Lewis - 7 > Tuan Vu - 2 > Tu Vu - 6 > Vince Bradley - 13 > Yacine - 9 > _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Thu Jul 6 01:30:02 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA31856 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 01:30:02 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from web1304.mail.yahoo.com (web1304.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.154]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA06215 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 16:38:04 -0700 Received: (qmail 19447 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Jul 2000 23:08:42 -0000 Message-ID: <20000705230842.19446.qmail@web1304.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <01BFE5C6.DA44F1E0@jsisfo22.jsishipping.com> Received: from [63.78.45.122] by web1304.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 05 Jul 2000 16:08:42 PDT Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 16:08:42 -0700 (PDT) From: ERiC WiNDSoR Subject: Re: [freestyle] NYers Shred the K-Rockathon! To: freestyle@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org > Matt Cross... > > >I'm going to be having some simply business cards made that just say > >"www.footbag.org" on them and pass them out to people that ask about > >freestyle Damn good idea. Windsor From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Thu Jul 6 06:59:43 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA32765 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 06:59:43 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from web4502.mail.yahoo.com (web4502.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.105.63]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA14619 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:48:25 -0700 Message-ID: <20000706061834.12279.qmail@web4502.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.220.164.192] by web4502.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 05 Jul 2000 23:18:34 PDT Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:18:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Edwin Tichenor Subject: [freestyle] atomic set ?? To: footbag free MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org hey, just a question from a newbie. i've been really working on the blur set, and i finally got it down(somewhat). I think its time to move on to another set ,and i would like to know how to do an atomic set seeing as how i don't even know where to start with the move. if anyone can give me some imput i'd be grateful. wish i could have made it to the philly smurf, unfortunetly i had a soccer tournament that very same weekend, to my dismay. hopefully, i'll see everyone in the funtastik tourney in my home town. product of the east coast, edwin tichenor or win as i prefer From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Thu Jul 6 08:28:03 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA00534 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:28:03 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from ewey.excite.com (ewey-rwcmta.excite.com [198.3.99.191]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA14991 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 00:16:43 -0700 Received: from patti.excite.com ([199.172.148.159]) by ewey.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20000706064722.CNWB19759.ewey.excite.com@patti.excite.com> for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:47:22 -0700 Message-ID: <7819605.962866041991.JavaMail.imail@patti.excite.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:47:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Eric Wulff Reply-To: To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] clear any confusion on Trivia Style 7 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 207.33.33.36 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hi some... Some of you seem confused a bit over over #1 on Trivia 7. When I say give me the "architects" I am referring to people. I want the names of those who came up with the Add system. thx Ironman... Out _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Thu Jul 6 18:24:38 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA02295 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 18:24:38 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from smtp.hmhs.com (firewall-user@smtp.hmhs.com [38.233.72.3]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA06477 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 02:41:50 -0700 Received: by smtp.hmhs.com; id EAA02387; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 04:12:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from unknown(167.99.69.118) by smtp.hmhs.com via smap (4.1) id xma002385; Thu, 6 Jul 00 04:12:26 -0500 Received: by SVARLEXC05 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 04:09:56 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wilson, Mike" To: "'freestyle@footbag.org'" Subject: [freestyle] Austin Shred Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 04:09:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Just wanted to say that the Austin shred was pretty awesome. It was very inspirational. I'm looking forward to the next get together within 300 miles of Ft. Worth. Peace Out, Ft. Worth Hackaholics From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Thu Jul 6 18:25:15 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA02306 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 18:25:15 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from bkb01-ims-01.ikon.com (bkb01-ims-01.ikon.com [205.145.58.62]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA09176 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 06:17:39 -0700 Received: by bkb01-ims-01.ikon.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:48:16 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Riefer, Robert" To: "'freestyle@footbag.org'" Subject: [freestyle] other promotional ideas Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:48:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hey all-- As a sort of continuation of the "Matt Cross Business Card Idea" thread, I was curious to hear other promotional / footbag educational things that people are doing. First... Matt, great idea with the business cards. We've printed up little word documents before, and that worked well, but business cards are even better because people will tend not to lose business cards as easily. Nice work!! So what else are people doing? Maybe your idea hasn't been thought of by everyone else, and might help spread things around. Just send your reply to me, and I'll sort of compile the ideas that I get (and remove duplicates) and send them out to everyone in a little while. Thanks! Bob Riefer From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Thu Jul 6 21:52:28 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA03185 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:52:28 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from web1303.mail.yahoo.com (web1303.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.153]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA18815 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:59:23 -0700 Received: (qmail 20282 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Jul 2000 20:30:02 -0000 Message-ID: <20000706203002.20281.qmail@web1303.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Received: from [63.78.45.113] by web1303.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 06 Jul 2000 13:30:02 PDT Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 13:30:02 -0700 (PDT) From: ERiC WiNDSoR Subject: Re: [freestyle] other promotional ideas To: "Riefer, Robert" Cc: freestyle@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org --- "Riefer, Robert" wrote: > Hey all-- >......people will tend not to lose business > cards as easily. Nice > work!! > > So what else are people doing? Maybe your idea > hasn't been thought of by > everyone else, and might help spread things around. > Thanks! > Bob Riefer I think promotion is a topic of the list that seriously needs to be talked about. Instead of talking about "what has happened to footbag" why don't we start doing stuff to actually change things? Not that I disagree with everyday ordinary topics, but I feel there has been a lack of more *important* issues. Particularly growing the sport of footbag. That is why I am going to start telling about my ideas. Many of us have ideas and shame on us for not telling others who are interested in promotion of the sport. First, I think the buisness card idea is great. Maybe we should do this on a massive scale.... There should also be some sort of tracking system to see how many people actually went to the site after receiving card. Maybe there should be a button on footbag.org saying "click here if you recived a buisness card." The internet is probably one of the most useful elements for promoting the sport which has been said many, many times. Other things I have done so far are....directed a tournament, made a video to give out, and endlessly called people near me who were interested in footbag. Sometimes people are scared/lazy to come out for whatever reason and a little encouragement helps. The biggest promotion for footbag is actually playing the sport. Most of all, playing in highly populated areas. I got into the sport from seeing it at my local pier. Just some ideas, most of which conventional. Its really hard to come up with ideas so please, please tell us your ideas even if you have tried them or not. I'm at work so i can't go on for too long so bye, bye. Eric Windsor O /|\ o \\ _// ` From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Fri Jul 7 18:03:21 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA06014 for freestyle-outgoing; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 18:03:21 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (f207.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.207]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA28585 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 22:02:44 -0700 Received: (qmail 76979 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jul 2000 04:32:52 -0000 Message-ID: <20000707043252.76978.qmail@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20000702135604.18721.qmail@www0k.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 12.5.165.12 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 Jul 2000 21:32:52 PDT X-Originating-IP: [12.5.165.12] From: "Frank Mingst" To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: Re: [freestyle] Pendulum Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 21:32:52 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Gary wrote: >Can someone explain it [pendulum] in great detail to >me? The pendulum is something that you just have to jack with until you get it. I hit my first just screwing around in an indoor atrium at a hotel at UIL Regionals in Abilene. There are a few tips thet I can give you though. First, when you catch the bag on your toe DO NOT accelerate your foot any, you must maintain a uniform speed. Second, swing your leg straight back behind you. The best way to accomplish this is to keep your leg straight and swing it backwards, when your hip has gone as far as it will go swing your knee and when it has gone as far as it will go switch to your foot. You should end up with your toe pointing up towards the sky. You should never attempt to look at the bag while performing this move; doing so will misalign your body and the bag will hook into your shoulder or the floor. And remember... ALWAYS USE BOTH FEET!!! Frank "devilman" Mingst From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Fri Jul 7 18:04:51 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA06025 for freestyle-outgoing; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 18:04:51 -0700 Received: from stone.ec.rockwell.com (firewall-user@stone.ec.rockwell.com [199.191.58.22]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA05104 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 06:02:09 -0700 Received: by stone.ec.rockwell.com; id HAA03559; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:26:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: stone.ec.rockwell.com: Processed from queue /var/spool/mqueue/check Received: from borg.switch.rockwell.com(131.198.119.64) by stone.ec.rockwell.com via smap (V5.5) id xma003374; Fri, 7 Jul 00 07:25:45 -0500 Received: from pcklokow (pcklokow [131.198.116.31]) by borg.switch.rockwell.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA07659; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:31:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <002101bfe80e$ee9372d0$1f74c683@pcklokow.ec.rockwell.com> In-Reply-To: <20000706203002.20281.qmail@web1303.mail.yahoo.com> From: "Dan Klokow" To: "ERiC WiNDSoR" , "Riefer, Robert" Cc: Subject: Re: [freestyle] other promotional ideas Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:29:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Eric wrote... >First, I think the buisness card idea is great. Maybe >we should do this on a massive scale.... Waazup, What a coincidence! My sister just sent me a link where anyone can get 250 FREE Buisness cards from Staples.com. Check it out!>> >http://www.staplespromo.easiest.com/order/index.cfm -Dan CIC (Chicago Inner Circle) From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Fri Jul 7 18:05:33 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA06030 for freestyle-outgoing; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 18:05:33 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from bkb01-ims-01.ikon.com (bkb01-ims-01.ikon.com [205.145.58.62]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA05583 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 06:24:42 -0700 Received: by bkb01-ims-01.ikon.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 08:55:24 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Riefer, Robert" To: "'freestyle@footbag.org'" Subject: Re: [freestyle] other promotional ideas Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 08:55:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org I wrote: > Just > send your reply to > me, and I'll sort of compile the ideas that I get (and remove > duplicates) > and send them out to everyone in a little while. > > Thanks! > Bob Riefer > > I got a couple of really good ones already, so I can't resist letting them out of the bag earlier than I expected... ** GF Smoothie: GF says simply letting everyone know about the website is one good thing, and that he has gone as far as to march in a parade with his footbag to gain exposure. He wears shirts that have "footbag.org" written on them too. Telling people about the website etc, may seem obvious, but I know there may be some people that are shy to advertise for the web.. Don't be shy!! How'd you get interested? Through footbag.org if I had to guess!!! ** Matt Craig of the Michigan Footbag Club: OK, so this has long been a favorite idea of mine, and it is really easy to pull off. Plus, it's a really effective tool. Here's a quote from his email: > Make a little two sided ad board with the name of your club and footbag.org on > it and stand it up wherever you get together to play. I don't know what the > technical name of those signs are, but you know the ones I am talking about > like you see outside a coffee shop on the sidewalk with the specials written > on it. You could even have a pouch for flyers and business cards that says > "Please take one!" This is called a sandwich board I think, and you can easily get what you need together for about $15. Some plywood, some paint, some stencils... That's it! When you've never seen footbag freestyle before, it can be pretty intimidating to jump in and ask questions to these crazy kids doing all these crazy tricks right? Well.. this idea allows people to kind of sneak in, grab a pamphlet or write down the website etc.. and then ask questions when they're a little more comfortable. OK, I'll shut up. Good idea Matt!!! ** Eric Windsor: I know you all already saw his message, but I have to reiterate what a good idea Eric has here. He took a great idea and went further with it. Steve G...Anyone...Beuller.... who do we need to talk to try to get something like this off the ground? Do the "powers that be" think this is as good an idea as I do? Good work again to Matt Cross for starting this idea, and hence starting this thread!! Eric wrote: > First, I think the business card idea is great. Maybe > we should do this on a massive scale.... There should > also be some sort of tracking system to see how many > people actually went to the site after receiving card. > Maybe there should be a button on footbag.org saying > "click here if you received a business card." Brian Kimball: OK, here's another great idea. A direct quote from Brian: > www.footbag.org shirts! Tourney directors are already putting the website on their T's for the most part as far as I can tell, but maybe these shirts could be sort of a walking business card. Without the distraction of all the sponsor logos etc, the web address might have a better chance at being remembered. Again to the "powers that be" could we possibly do something where as part of some sort of special footbag membership, you pay a small one time donation and in return get a footbag.org t to help advertise? Just asking! Don't kill me!! ;) ************* OK, folks! That's just about it so far. Try some of these ideas out on your own. We can't let the same people continue to do all the promoting for the sport-- they've more than paid their dues, so it's everyone else's' turn now. Beyond just playing a lot and being in the public eye when possible (which are both super important things) we need to each take a little more responsibility to keep the new players coming in, and to let people know about our great sport! Keep the ideas coming! Bob Riefer From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Fri Jul 7 18:12:44 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA06096 for freestyle-outgoing; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 18:12:44 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from bucky.excite.com (bucky-rwcmex.excite.com [198.3.99.218]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA30865 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 00:44:49 -0700 Received: from hippie.excite.com ([199.172.148.180]) by bucky.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20000707071514.LMUS5354.bucky.excite.com@hippie.excite.com> for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 00:15:14 -0700 Message-ID: <23912493.962954114028.JavaMail.imail@hippie.excite.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 00:15:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Eric Everspaugh To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] Freestyle Around the World Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 209.172.21.179 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org This is more of a little story. I was playing footbag at my favorite coffee shoppe on the 4th when I started busting out ATW's. Everybody thought it was rad. (FYI I am one of the best footbag player in the small town of New Buffalo.) I had a sudden flashback to my first ATW. I was in SubWay, and They let us play footbag inside. I just go done with a rad session of 4 people playing in a small dining area. 3 time the grey and black small dirtbag landed on the soda fountain. We had to sit down because some tourists came in and it was part of our deal to stop when customers came in. We sat down and me and another friend started hacking while sitting. I said, "I figured out ho to do an Around The World yesterday, but I can't get it." I tried for about 2 hours that morning. So I got the footbag and gave it a shot. Missed, so they laughed, and I tried again. "Oh Man," said a friend when I got it on the second try, sitting down. I wasn't able to do it for about three months after that, but now I can do it. It helps to have shoes on instead of combat boots, trust me. Hollywood Bob _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Sat Jul 8 06:43:53 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA07949 for freestyle-outgoing; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 06:43:53 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from firefly.prairienet.org (firefly.prairienet.org [192.17.3.3]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA21935 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:31:59 -0700 Received: from bluestem (bluestem.prairienet.org [192.17.3.4]) by firefly.prairienet.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA08220 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:02:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:02:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Philip Summers X-Sender: konrad@bluestem To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] Midwest Regionals in Chicago Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org I need a place to stay at on the first night (the 21st.) Would anyone be kind enough to give me a bed/couch/floor to crash on? or perhaps would any other out-of-towners like to share a hotel room? -phil From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Sat Jul 8 06:49:37 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA07983 for freestyle-outgoing; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 06:49:37 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f From: Matthew Cross Received: from imo-r20.mx.aol.com (imo-r20.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.162]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15747 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 14:55:48 -0700 Received: from MatthewL329@aol.com by imo-r20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v27.12.) id z.ca.7146849 (3704) for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 17:25:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <002101bfe80e$ee9372d0$1f74c683@pcklokow.ec.rockwell.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 17:25:55 EDT Subject: Re: [freestyle] other promotional ideas To: freestyle@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 28 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org In a message dated 7/7/00 1:33:25 PM, klokow@ec.rockwell.com writes: > What a coincidence! My sister just sent me a link where anyone can get 250 > FREE Buisness cards from Staples.com. Check it out!>> > >http://www.staplespromo.easiest.com/order/index.cfm This is a spectacular post, thanks alot to Dan for that. EVERYONE do this, EVERYONE get the business cards, I just ordered mine. they'll be great for exposure. Concerts, public gathers, EVERYTHING, but don't just hand them out. shred, and keep them in your pockets, and just give someone one when they ask questions. Matt From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Sat Jul 8 06:51:28 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA08010 for freestyle-outgoing; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 06:51:28 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from dns1.provide.net (root@dns1.provide.net [216.86.64.33]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA13234 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:58:51 -0700 Received: from provide.net (usr05-041.provide.net [216.86.67.41]) by dns1.provide.net (8.9.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06482 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:29:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <39663018.47D7FBCA@provide.net> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 15:31:36 -0400 From: matt craig X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "'freestyle@footbag.org'" Subject: Re: [freestyle] other promotional ideas References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Robert Riefer wrote: > ** GF Smoothie: > GF says simply letting everyone know about the website is one good thing, > and that he has gone as far as to march in a parade with his footbag to gain > exposure. As I was a witness (too scared to jump in and show off my lackluster skills in a parade) I'd say if you can handle kicking for 2 miles at a 8mph pace, parades are an amazing way to advertise the sport. And its a great way to warm up. GF may have been sweating and breathing hard after marching/kicking 1 1/2 miles (dropless as far as I saw, too) he shredded like a madman for two hours afterward. -- Let me see you do that with your left MC From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Sat Jul 8 06:51:57 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA08021 for freestyle-outgoing; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 06:51:57 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f From: Evan Edmondson Received: from imo-r13.mx.aol.com (imo-r13.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.67]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12624 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:33:00 -0700 Received: from ThisBeEvan@aol.com by imo-r13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v27.10.) id z.f9.9fe548 (4403) for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:03:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 15:03:01 EDT Subject: [freestyle] Tours To: freestyle@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 108 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hey, I was just wondering has anyone ever done/tried a footbag tour. I think that would be really cool if alot of the pro's could get together and just travel the country. I know this would be really hard on the players but... Also I think there should be a place on footbag.org for donations to sponsor future tours. my 2 cents evan edmondson From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Sat Jul 8 06:52:37 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA08032 for freestyle-outgoing; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 06:52:37 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from davisbrody.com (mail.davisbrody.com [205.253.194.181]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12413 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:22:05 -0700 Received: from davisbrody.com [209.73.237.244] by davisbrody.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.04) id A39D8953023A; Fri, 07 Jul 2000 14:38:21 EDT Message-ID: <39662509.A39E68FF@davisbrody.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 14:44:25 -0400 From: Bruce Dole X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: Re: [freestyle] other promotional ideas References: <002101bfe80e$ee9372d0$1f74c683@pcklokow.ec.rockwell.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Thanks Dan, 10 minutes after reading your e-mail I had 250 cards designed and ready to go...it's pretty easy. I suggest layout #2 with the soccer ball logo. Very cool indeed...I don't know how many times people have come up to me asking for information, and I tell them the name of the relevant sites to visit, but I know they're just gonna forget it 5 minutes later. Let's spread the word that this game ROCKS! I feel sorry for everyone who doesn't play...they don't know what they're misssing, and this free offer from Staples is a great way to get exposure! So in the words of the man.... "DO IT!!!! DO IT NOW!!!!! " -Arnold Schwarzenegger Later, Bruce New York Footbag Department Dan Klokow wrote: > Eric wrote... > >First, I think the buisness card idea is great. Maybe > >we should do this on a massive scale.... > > Waazup, > What a coincidence! My sister just sent me a link where anyone can get 250 > FREE Buisness cards from Staples.com. Check it out!>> > >http://www.staplespromo.easiest.com/order/index.cfm > > -Dan > CIC > (Chicago Inner Circle) From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Sat Jul 8 06:53:19 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA08043 for freestyle-outgoing; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 06:53:19 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11103 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:30:21 -0700 Received: from billy ([63.199.202.211]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0FXC00KZP9WYMM@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for freestyle@footbag.org; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 10:58:35 -0700 From: Sam Colclough Subject: Re: [freestyle] other promotional ideas To: Dan Klokow , ERiC WiNDSoR , "Riefer, Robert" Cc: freestyle@footbag.org Message-id: <002401bfe83c$fbb9c1c0$9b66fea9@billy> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 References: <002101bfe80e$ee9372d0$1f74c683@pcklokow.ec.rockwell.com> X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org amazing! everybody should do this we each get 250 free ones.. woo hoo! you rock DAN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Klokow" To: "ERiC WiNDSoR" ; "Riefer, Robert" Cc: Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 5:29 AM Subject: Re: [freestyle] other promotional ideas > Eric wrote... > >First, I think the buisness card idea is great. Maybe > >we should do this on a massive scale.... > > Waazup, > What a coincidence! My sister just sent me a link where anyone can get 250 > FREE Buisness cards from Staples.com. Check it out!>> > >http://www.staplespromo.easiest.com/order/index.cfm > > -Dan > CIC > (Chicago Inner Circle) > > From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Sat Jul 8 07:01:26 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA08106 for freestyle-outgoing; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 07:01:26 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from mail1.rdc2.bc.home.com (mail1.rdc2.bc.home.com [24.2.10.84]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA23855 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:55:23 -0700 Received: from user ([24.64.198.162]) by mail1.rdc2.bc.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20000708062556.HHIN10910.mail1.rdc2.bc.home.com@user> for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:25:56 -0700 Message-ID: <000c01bfe8a5$87b817e0$a2c64018@gvsa1.bc.wave.home.com> From: "allan haggett" To: Subject: [freestyle] Move name Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:27:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hey all, Just wondering if "Puree" is a name that has been taken already for any particular move(in the tradition of blender, food processor etc...).... if not I think I might like to use it for stepping opp. butterfly twirl. Anyone think it fits? or not? I finally hit Marius(spinning prdx torque) the other day, and have worked it into a string or two since then... I hit this move once or twice about a year ago but it has left me since then... anyone experience this (moves that just seem easy for one day and then go away for months on end)??? Allan Victoria BC From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Sun Jul 9 04:53:14 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA10902 for freestyle-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 04:53:14 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (f132.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.132]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA31486 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 09:59:34 -0700 Received: (qmail 1581 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jul 2000 16:29:42 -0000 Message-ID: <20000708162942.1580.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 141.84.69.17 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 08 Jul 2000 09:29:42 PDT X-Originating-IP: [141.84.69.17] From: "Andrew McCargar" To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: Re: [freestyle] Tours Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 09:29:42 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Evan wrote: >Hey, I was just wondering has anyone ever done/tried a footbag tour. WFA sends people all around every year. Masterfoods just sent a group of people around eastern europe with Jubal, Chard and co. I´m told by a friend in Prague Jubal hit a 7 add move in front of him. And, maybe you can still get air fair for the ZION tour. It starts right after the European Champs and goes all along the french coast. Tones of great European players are going along, I´m leaving the continent and kind of broke or I´d be there with them. >Also I think there should be a place on footbag.org for donations to >sponsor future tours. Well come to think of it, I´m kind of amazed there´s no place to give donations to footbag.org I admire Steve for not doing it yet, but I kind of wonder how long he can keep pooring money into this sport without asking for some more help. Props to Steve, but I´m still going to skool your ass bloody in Paris :) -Andrew From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Sun Jul 9 04:54:55 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA10913 for freestyle-outgoing; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 04:54:55 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (f27.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.27]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA08150 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 20:29:16 -0700 Received: (qmail 43137 invoked by uid 0); 9 Jul 2000 02:59:24 -0000 Message-ID: <20000709025924.43136.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.44.107.113 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 08 Jul 2000 19:59:24 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.44.107.113] From: "Stan Sagalovskiy" To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: Re: [freestyle] eggbeater/atomic set Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 22:59:24 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org hi all, just wanted to say a bit about eggbeater and style in general, while watching freestyle videos i realized why my style looks so awkward to me - i plant my setting leg before the other one is in the air. so it looks like i'm taking extra steps. i've been skooling *mirages* today to try and get rid of this step and make the moves look smoother - it was *very* difficult and will take many many more weeks. (not to say that it's a bad style, i've seen some shredders busting out big moves *with* a plant and their style looked very natural) mm.. right.. what i was commenting on is the eggbeater. there're almost 3 styles to it: 1. with the atomic set. 2. toe set (plant) > eggbeater 3. toe set > while the setting leg is about to be planted, the other leg is on its way to do the first dexterity. maybe some will argue, but personally, while trying #2 and #3 i've found them very different. my seventeen cents Stan From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Mon Jul 10 03:11:48 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA13219 for freestyle-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 03:11:48 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from web515.mail.yahoo.com (web515.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.230]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA31738 for ; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 14:13:17 -0700 Message-ID: <20000709204326.20860.qmail@web515.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.163.197.47] by web515.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 09 Jul 2000 13:43:26 PDT Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 13:43:26 -0700 (PDT) From: mark defilippo Subject: [freestyle] vancouver sleep To: freestyle@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org hello everyone out there in footbag land. im coming out to worlds from montana and want to get in on a room with some people. last year i got a room and let lots of hackers crash in chi_town. this year if anybody who got a room early and need some one to kick some flow for extra bed space or even floor space that would be way cool. let me know at markdshred@aol.com or cxall me in new york at 518 370 4552. thanx late markdshred From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Mon Jul 10 19:45:38 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA15886 for freestyle-outgoing; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 19:45:38 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (f103.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.103]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA03835 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:07:46 -0700 Received: (qmail 37816 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jul 2000 18:37:54 -0000 Message-ID: <20000710183754.37815.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 142.177.194.80 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:37:54 PDT X-Originating-IP: [142.177.194.80] From: "Brian Hines" To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] any new/old lavers Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:37:54 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org yo bagaz, I was wondering if there was any canadians out there that had lavers that they would be interested in selling in a size 10 1/2. I want to get these shoes but it costs over 100 dollars canadian to order them, and I simply don't have that right now. if any one would be interested plese reply, it would help me out a lot, another question, did any canadians try to order the 250 business cards?, if so what did you put for "state/Prov", there was no canadian provinces? well I guess that is it for now, until next time keep kickn Brian Hines footbag.cjb.net From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Tue Jul 11 17:08:01 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA19391 for freestyle-outgoing; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 17:08:01 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from smtp11.bellglobal.com (smtp11.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.53]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11369 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 09:55:04 -0700 Received: from sympatico.ca ([64.228.226.156]) by smtp11.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03733; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 12:32:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <396B4BA7.66C786AA@sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 12:30:31 -0400 From: S/G Duchesne Reply-To: sg.duchesne@sympatico.ca X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freestyle CC: yevez@hotmail.com Subject: [freestyle] Montreal Tournament wrap-up Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hey freestyle World! This is Yacine reporting from Montreal! The Tournament in Montreal was great. We had plenty of fun and were witness to major busting even though we had shitty weather. Ken S. was hitting a bunch of 5s, 6s... and 7s! He hit a few blurry ducking symp. whirls and ducking food processors and some of those were clean without any doubt and sealed too. Shred on! Sébastien D. is getting stronger by the day since he came back from Westerns. His brain,s been thinking about some phat moves and he was going long and strong. Blurriests and flurries. Fogs and Vortices. Y'know... that kind of easy stuff. I must admit I had a great week-end too. So I'll boast a bit. Ripped warrior and atomic drifter. May I say: Woohoo! The best part of the week-end was the women turn-out this week-end. Mel Schneider made the trip up north, skooled and spanked a lot of us. She is a machine. She just won't stop shredding. Also our 3 local women freestyler joined in. Marilou, Marilyn and Caroline. The biggest surprise came from a small town: Shawinigan! I'm sure nobody has ever heard of it but they have 2 great freestylers so open up your atlas and look for it now! Nice work Kavin and Sam. All in all it was a great week-end, except for my neigbors who were tired of all the partying at my place! See you all at Worlds! -Yacine Here are the results for the routines and shred contest: Routines Open 1.Ken Somolinos, NY 2.Yacine Merzouk, Montréal 3.Sébastien Duchesne, Montréal 4.Marc Giard-Larivière, montréal Intermédiaire 1.Melissa Schneider, Somewhere in Massachussets (I forgot) 2.Kavin Thiffault, Shawinigan 3.Samuel Jobin, Shawinigan 4.Hugues Veillette, Montréal 5.Pierre-Pascal Gauthier, Montréal 6.Marilou Ouimet, Montréal Novice 1.Adam Pirog, Montréal 2.Caroline Bourgoin, Montréal 3.Joël Murray, Montréal Shred Contest Open 1.Ken Somolinos, 121.8 2.Sébastien Duchesne, 119.6 3.Yacine Merzouk, 111.2 4.Danny Cardonne, 88.8 5.Marc Giard, 77.1 6.Kavin Thiffault, 71.4 7.Pierre-Pascal gauthier, 57.4 8.Samuel Jobin, 53.6 Intermediate (tiltless moves were counted towards uniques) 1.Mel Schneider, 77.7 2.Marc-André Veillette, 63.2 3.Yan ?, 58.3 4.Hugues Veillette, 56.0 5.Adam Pirog, 33.0 6.Joel Murray, 22.5 From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Wed Jul 12 06:41:37 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA21768 for freestyle-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 06:41:37 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from sfo.jsishipping.com (jsishipping.com [207.33.33.34]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA32282 for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 21:35:54 -0700 Received: from sfofw1.jsishipping.com ([207.33.33.36]) by sfo.jsishipping.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-64750U500L500S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 21:05:01 -0700 Received: by jsisfo22.jsishipping.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BFEB7B.8A6A72C0@jsisfo22.jsishipping.com>; Tue, 11 Jul 2000 21:04:02 -0700 Message-ID: <01BFEB7B.8A6A72C0@jsisfo22.jsishipping.com> From: Eric Wulff To: "'freestyle'" Subject: [freestyle] 250 FREE www.footbag.org cards Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 21:04:00 -0700 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Sunil inspired by Matt & others said on the footbag list... >To all who want to help promote footbag: >Bruce Dole signed off with a quote we should all take to heart: >"DO IT!!!! DO IT NOW!!!!! " -Arnold Schwarzenegger I want to say again... great idea... easy to do... Done! Eric From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Wed Jul 12 19:31:01 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA24519 for freestyle-outgoing; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 19:31:01 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (law-f37.hotmail.com [209.185.131.100]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA18214 for ; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 09:07:19 -0700 Received: (qmail 43008 invoked by uid 0); 12 Jul 2000 15:37:23 -0000 Message-ID: <20000712153723.43007.qmail@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <01BFEB7B.8A6A72C0@jsisfo22.jsishipping.com> Received: from 62.157.66.183 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jul 2000 08:37:23 PDT X-Originating-IP: [62.157.66.183] From: "Fabian Kollakowski" To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: Re: [freestyle] 250 FREE www.footbag.org cards Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:37:23 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org > >To all who want to help promote footbag: >I want to say again... great idea... easy to do... Done! has anyone found a similar service for germany or the rest of the world yet ? fabian From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Thu Jul 13 19:12:46 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA29079 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 19:12:46 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (f257.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.30]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA22752 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 06:18:16 -0700 Received: (qmail 10584 invoked by uid 0); 13 Jul 2000 12:48:25 -0000 Message-ID: <20000713124825.10583.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 132.208.191.58 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 05:48:24 PDT X-Originating-IP: [132.208.191.58] Reply-To: Ceiling-Fan@footbag.org From: "KeN Somolinos" To: Freestyle@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] candy Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 08:48:24 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hey all, Not to be exceedingly random, but the other day at the grocery store here in Montreal, I was struck by the number of candy bars here that have freestyle names. At one store I saw: Mirage, Royale, Fusion, and Twirls. Not to mention all the Reese`s products. Shred on, CF From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Thu Jul 13 20:02:05 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA29290 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 20:02:05 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from web801.mail.yahoo.com (web801.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.61]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA01662 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 12:37:10 -0700 Received: (qmail 8427 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Jul 2000 19:07:49 -0000 Message-ID: <20000713190749.8426.qmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.14.207.198] by web801.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 12:07:49 PDT Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 12:07:49 -0700 (PDT) From: James Risden Subject: [freestyle] anyone need some lavers? To: freestyle@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Ive got a brand new pair of old skool (not those millenium) lavers 8 1/2US. That's 1/2 size too small for me. Anyone want em? $50 w/shipping? Lemme know. Later, Jamez From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Fri Jul 14 04:29:12 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA31515 for freestyle-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 04:29:12 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f215.hotmail.com [216.32.181.215]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA17039 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 20:50:05 -0700 Received: (qmail 16887 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jul 2000 03:20:14 -0000 Message-ID: <20000714032014.16886.qmail@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20000713124825.10583.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.191.82.135 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 20:20:13 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.191.82.135] From: "Mickey Mayer" To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: Re: [freestyle] candy Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 23:20:13 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hey Ken and all, >Not to be exceedingly random, but the other day at the grocery store here >in Montreal, I was struck by the number of candy bars here that >have >freestyle names. At one store I saw: Mirage, Royale, Fusion, >and Twirls. Yeah, Montreal is where the freestyle shit is at. Woohoo! Peace, The Mouse From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Fri Jul 14 06:39:57 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA31764 for freestyle-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 06:39:57 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (mta6.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.240]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA20975 for ; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 23:08:00 -0700 Received: from billy ([63.199.200.89]) by mta6.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0FXO00FKHAARC1@mta6.snfc21.pbi.net> for freestyle@footbag.org; Thu, 13 Jul 2000 22:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 22:37:48 -0700 From: Sam Colclough Subject: [freestyle] oops I made a website To: Freestyle Mailing List Message-id: <002f01bfed55$a54f3d60$9b66fea9@billy> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Priority: 3 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org I'd like to tell you that OOPS! Footbag Club now has a website. "Grumble Grumble," you grumble. "What's so special about another club website? Am I going to see a dictionary of footbag terms that I already know?" No. "Am I going to see pictures of a bunch of hacky sacker kids toe stalling?" No. *Cough cough Chad Devlahovich Cough* "So why should I go?" Well, because it's OOPS! Ok ok... because we, in conjunction with Tara Ohr of Sole Power, created a comprehensive stretching guide for freestyle footbag. It is separated into sections by muscle group so if you already have a warm up routine you can look at a specific area, say, for an injury. It is also a great beginning guide to stretching. Everything from ankle flexibility to the correct way to stretch. I'm proud. Tara's awesome. What else is there to say about that? One of my favorite parts of the OOPS! Website is our pet squirrel. Oh but don't take my word for it, check out the multimedia section. Think you're up to date on footbag happenings? You're WRONG. hehe We finally pieced together the freestyle results in all categories for the 2000 Southern California Footbag Championships.(better late than never) Net results are coming soon. Sorry, David Butcher is in Europe crushing some frenchies. :c) I love french fries. Ok What else? There is a members section with cool pictures of our members. It will be the first place to get info about our tournament, the Southern California Footbag Championships. The site is still being added to but is fully functional as of this moment. Things to look forward to are: More stretches.. of course you master footbag players are also the master stretchers (it's the S) so when you send me your stretch ideas.. ill post them More links.. as of now only have 2 and blah blah blah cool stuff, pictures, members, party drum roll.. http://www.penny-lane.com/oops Can't wait to represent at worlds: The oops team: Chad D, Bryan F, and Sam Love, OOPS! Footbag Club Hermosa Beach / o\ \O ( /_/ | \/\ / \_ | / /|\ \ ___/_|_\___ You get what you give /o /\ / ? |_ | O /O | /|\ /|\ / \ ___/_|_\___| | -Sam Colclough From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Fri Jul 14 19:29:48 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01420 for freestyle-outgoing; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 19:29:48 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f310.hotmail.com [216.32.180.164]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA07478 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 10:24:10 -0700 Received: (qmail 60962 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jul 2000 16:54:19 -0000 Message-ID: <20000714165419.60961.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 142.177.203.249 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 09:54:19 PDT X-Originating-IP: [142.177.203.249] From: "Cole Hobson" To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] Prize Money and Leg exercise.... Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:54:19 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hey everybody, I have two questions for the good ppl of this list today ... First of all ... In tournaments, in the open division when there are cash prizes, how much does the winner usually get? Now I know it probably depends on the tournament, and how many ppl enter and stuff, but just give me a ballpark figure, because I'm interested to know... Second question ... Do any of the stylers out there do specific exercise to build up the muscles in their legs? ex: lifting weights or something like that. So, do any of you guys do exercises like that to improve your game, or can you be super good by just leaving yourself how ya are? See ya, Cole http://footbag.cjb.net From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Sat Jul 15 06:45:19 2000 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA03382 for freestyle-outgoing; Sat, 15 Jul 2000 06:45:19 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from f05n15.cac.psu.edu (f05s15.cac.psu.edu [128.118.141.58]) by Market.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA19374 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 16:26:49 -0700 Received: from integer.psu.edu (ilanna50.shawneelink.net [216.240.67.61]) by f05n15.cac.psu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA32854 for ; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 18:57:26 -0400 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000714175550.00b1f7c0@email.psu.edu> X-Sender: awf108@email.psu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 17:57:00 -0500 To: freestyle@footbag.org From: Alexander Faber Subject: [freestyle] Midwest Regionals. . . Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org So, uhhhh. . .what's the deal with Midwest Regionals? There's nothing posted on the web yet as to exact location, exact times, tournament registration, social schedule, etc. Anybody know anything more about what's up?