From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Wed Aug 1 19:29:08 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA04863 for freestyle-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 19:29:08 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from llic.net (sql.market.net [209.125.90.2]) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA31540 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 02:13:32 -0700 Received: from hotmail.com (f97.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.97]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA07647 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:05:30 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:05:00 -0700 Received: from 205.188.195.46 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 01 Aug 2001 02:04:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [205.188.195.46] From: "Glenn "BoZ" Gentzke" To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] Anybody have lavers to spare? Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:04:59 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Aug 2001 02:05:00.0162 (UTC) FILETIME=[5EA2A620:01C11A2E] Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hello shredders, Here in my small town of Holland, NY, there are some kids who are starting to extend their reach out of just cirlce kicking towards the world of the great sport we partake in that is footbag. As other shoes are becoming more popular (laver milleniums, china lavers, other shoes with mods, ect.) i figured there might be some pairs of older lavers that can be spared. Any shoes from sizes 9-12 would be a great help and we can pay shipping if necessary. Anything that can help the forming Holland club with shoes would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time and keep kicking, ~Glenn "BoZ" Gentzke _________________________________________________________________ Descargue GRATUITAMENTE MSN Explorer en http://explorer.msn.es/intl.asp From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Wed Aug 1 19:30:00 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA04874 for freestyle-outgoing; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 19:30:00 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02525 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:57:17 -0700 From: Tony Glick Received: from Allman144@aol.com by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31.9.) id z.7a.1883e2fa (15881) for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:48:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web45.aolmail.aol.com (web45.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.6]) by air-id07.mail.aol.com (v79.27) with ESMTP id MAILINID78-0801094838; Wed, 01 Aug 2001 09:48:38 -0400 Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 09:48:34 EDT Subject: [freestyle] Footbag Players in Ohio To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <7a.1883e2fa.289962b6@aol.com> Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hey everyone, This is Tony Glick from Ohio. I am looking for any new kickers in the southeastern part of Ohio or even Columbus. I go to Ohio University in Athens. So anyone who is in that area reply to me...not the list. Tony From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Fri Aug 3 19:57:54 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01160 for freestyle-outgoing; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 19:57:54 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from llic.net (sql.market.net [209.125.90.2]) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00657 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 18:43:17 -0700 Received: from dnvrpop4.dnvr.uswest.net (dnvrpop4.dnvr.uswest.net [206.196.128.6]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id TAA08047 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:34:41 -0700 Received: (qmail 34632 invoked by uid 0); 3 Aug 2001 02:34:39 -0000 Received: from dslpppo155.dnvr.uswest.net (HELO mindspring.com) (63.225.247.155) by dnvrpop4.dnvr.uswest.net with SMTP; 3 Aug 2001 02:34:39 -0000 Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 22:37:10 -0400 Message-ID: <3B6A0E56.DD6CBA4E@mindspring.com> From: "Ernest M. Crvich" To: freestyle@footbag.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [freestyle] Jonathan Schneider == Whirling Swirl Master Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Today, August 2nd, 2001, Mr. Jonathan Schneider, The Outsider, The Jedi, The Boulder BAPman, has done it. SEVEN consecutive Whirling Swirls, all clean! And get this, folks...a few minutes before hitting that, he hit SIX consecutive Whirling Swirls on his "weak" (yeah, right) side (never even so much as *grazing* the ground once with his swirl foot, now THAT is clean!), and then soon afterwards SIX again on his "strong" side! Witnesses to this jaw-dropping madness were myself and Red Shred Husted! "Today, I am a GOD!" -- Bart Simpson, _1FO5_ ("Bart's Inner Child") -- Ernest M. Crvich Boulder, CO Have footbag, will watch Jonathan shred From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Fri Aug 3 19:58:35 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01167 for freestyle-outgoing; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 19:58:35 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from llic.net (sql.market.net [209.125.90.2]) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00667 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 18:43:19 -0700 Received: from foundationcomputing.net (IDENT:root@donorport.org [207.160.174.56]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA31601 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:24:13 -0700 Received: from [207.160.174.20] ([207.160.174.20] verified) by foundationcomputing.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.3.2) with ESMTP id 552442 for freestyle@footbag.org; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 17:17:52 -0500 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 17:24:31 -0500 Subject: [freestyle] To hack without vision From: Derrick Fogle To: Freestyle Listserve Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Just thought I'd give y'all a little sendoff for Worlds. Wish I could be there. Everyone please do me a favor and SHRED HARD AND HAVE FUN! To hack without vision ---------------------- Trying to Hack at night Evoked the dream that someday (probably long after I've left this physical world), I might play without eyes. To know the bag beyond vision, feel every molecule every fiber, every bead. To feel every dimension of space and time. I imagine the fusion between footbag and player: Flawless and complete, Knowing each other as surely as one knows a lover in the dark. -Derrick From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Fri Aug 3 19:59:17 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01172 for freestyle-outgoing; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 19:59:17 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from llic.net (sql.market.net [209.125.90.2]) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00664 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 18:43:18 -0700 Received: from hotmail.com (f267.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.18.142]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA32009 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:35:07 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 15:34:37 -0700 Received: from 132.241.245.178 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 22:34:35 GMT X-Originating-IP: [132.241.245.178] From: "Tara Ohr" To: rodney_laver@hotmail.com, freestyle@footbag.org Subject: Re: [freestyle] serious injuries and the return to original form. Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 15:34:35 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2001 22:34:37.0293 (UTC) FILETIME=[4FA531D0:01C11BA3] Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Jordan, When you get a clearance from your doctor to start rehab, do it if you can afford it. Physical therapy is the best, most efficient way of bringing that torque back. You may not have full flexibility that you once had, but it's will be better than nothing. Time is a major factor. First the leg and ankle must heal long enough to provide enough support. So for now stay off of it, ice, elevate, and keep the cast on. While you are resting, try to maintain the rest of your fitness by doing light to moderate exercise. If you have access to the equipment, arm bicycles are great for maintaining cardiovascular fitness. If you do any weight training, continue to do the upper body. Once the doc gives the OK stretching the ankle is also important. Again it is best to see an expert in your area, but I hope this helps some. Good Luck. Tara Ohr, CPT >From: "Jordan Arron" >To: freestyle@footbag.org >Subject: [freestyle] serious injuries and the return to original form. >Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 21:02:09 +0800 > >Hey everyone, >I've recently received the worst ankle sprain of my life, complete with a >visit to the emergency room and a blunt discussion about the possiblity of >surgery. Needless to say, I'm stuck with crutches for the next two weeks >and then I may be faced with having to deal with the loss of my weakside >cliper. Does anyone out there have a similar experience and how they >managed to successfully and safely bring their clipper back to their >original form? >Thanks, >Jordan >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Tue Aug 14 00:42:18 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA28740 for freestyle-outgoing; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 00:42:18 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from llic.net (sql.market.net [209.125.90.2]) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA22778 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 04:35:34 -0700 Received: from femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.106]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id VAA26898 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 21:28:27 -0700 Received: from dallasfootbag.org ([65.10.4.236]) by femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010812042810.MLPV12650.femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com@dallasfootbag.org> for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 21:28:10 -0700 Message-ID: <3B7608E4.F57CE155@dallasfootbag.org> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 23:41:08 -0500 From: Derric Scalf Reply-To: derric@dallasfootbag.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-AtHome0405 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] Funtastiks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hey. Would anyone be interested in splitting a room at the Holiday Inn at Funtastiks (Friday - Monday nights). If so, let me know by private email. I don't stink or snore or anything. Later. -Derric From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Tue Aug 14 00:42:01 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA28734 for freestyle-outgoing; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 00:42:01 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from llic.net (sql.market.net [209.125.90.2]) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA12281 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 06:19:18 -0700 Received: from web4503.mail.yahoo.com (web4503.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.105.64]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id XAA17173 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 23:12:18 -0700 Message-ID: <20010810061218.10789.qmail@web4503.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.220.167.178] by web4503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Aug 2001 23:12:18 PDT Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 23:12:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Edwin Tichenor Subject: [freestyle] P.S. Whirl Problem To: footbag free MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org ello, i'll make this short and sweet so someone will have the patience to help me out. just resently started to land paradox symposium whirl, however, i am having extreme difficulty landing it consistantely. i'm having problems after the initial dex landing the bag on my clipper delay. i almost have it every time then the damn bag slips graciously of my delay, and i end up asking the footbag gods, "why me?" what am i doing wrong? any input is greatly appreciated. i also just landed a move today that i have no clue what it would be called. sorry i don't know the notation so i'll try and explain what it's like. from a right clipper delay set, same foot around the bag twice in a reverse double around the world motion, into a left toe delay. what in god's name would that be?? thanks for your time. product of the east, edwin tichenor, "tryin my best to keep up" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Tue Aug 14 06:08:44 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA29451 for freestyle-outgoing; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 06:08:44 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f From: Matthew Cross Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id XAA19611 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2001 23:00:05 -0700 Received: from MatthewL329@aol.com by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31.9.) id z.81.e99c1d4 (16486) for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 01:59:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <81.e99c1d4.28aa185d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 01:59:57 EDT Subject: [freestyle] Call to Rochester area... To: freestyle@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Dear Freestylers, ROCHESTER, NY AREA FOOTBAG PLAYERS, MAKE YOURSELVES KNOWN TO ME!!!! ;) Any new freshmen at the University of Rochester, RIT, St John Fisher, Nazareth, SUNY Brockport, or players at any of those schools (or other Rochester, NY area schools that I don't know about) that I haven't ran into yet, get in touch with me. The footbag scene at the University of Rochester (my school) is getting better steadily. I (and the rest of the Rochester Footbag Association) would love to hear from you. This fall is going to be prime shred time at U of R, and I'd love to have some new players around. Hope to get a response or two (or more ;] ) Thanks much... Matthew Cross Rochester Footbag Association University of Rochester Rochester, NY From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Tue Aug 14 07:56:13 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA30030 for freestyle-outgoing; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 07:56:13 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.86]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA22806 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 00:37:06 -0700 Received: from acer ([24.67.188.141]) by femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010814073706.OZOQ17978.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@acer> for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 00:37:06 -0700 Message-ID: <001001c12493$fdf57940$8dbc4318@ok.shawcable.net> From: "Jeff Lopes" To: Subject: [freestyle] Incredible Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 00:37:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hello Stylers, I just got back from Worlds 2001 in San Francisco Bay Area, and to me, it was the best week of my entire life. I watched the most INSANE freestyle I have ever seen, and the Finals night is a day I will never forget. Merzouk and Mulroney dropless routines, shred till 6 in the morning, Hall of fame dinner, it goes on and on. Props to Flash and Hurricane. Id like to thank everyone I met down there for making my stay an awesome one. I'll be going to many more tournaments to come. Truly inspired, Jeff Lopes P.S. 4 square dominates From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Tue Aug 14 18:21:03 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA30800 for freestyle-outgoing; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 18:21:03 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (f17.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.17]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id IAA31706 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 08:02:24 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 08:01:54 -0700 Received: from 62.104.214.68 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 15:01:53 GMT X-Originating-IP: [62.104.214.68] From: "Fabian Kollakowski" To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] spins/whirls Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 15:01:53 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Aug 2001 15:01:54.0006 (UTC) FILETIME=[0E058760:01C124D2] Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org hi all, i got some problems learning spins and whirls: when i try to practise spins, i always get dizzy VERY quick. is there maybe a way to get one's body used to spins slowly or do i just have to live with it ? i got the feeling that my flipside whirl isn't that clean. i think i'm just a bit too slow.i've found out that outside delays and pickups are kind of useful but i'd really appreciate it if someone could recommend some more exercises to gain whirl flexibility and speed. thanks in advance fabian p.s.: thanks everyone for helping me with that bag issue. From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Wed Aug 15 05:19:22 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA31641 for freestyle-outgoing; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 05:19:22 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:38:37 -0700 Received: from 24.222.81.78 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 04:38:36 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.222.81.78] From: "Brad Mills" To: freestyle@list.footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] sandhacks Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 01:38:36 -0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Aug 2001 04:38:37.0197 (UTC) FILETIME=[263313D0:01C12544] Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hey, The names Brad Mills, remember it you'll be screaming it later*. There has been some discussion of how to fix holes in your hack and how to wash it. Personally, almost everytime my sandhack gets dirty, I wash the guts out of it, plus it makes it softer and fresh smelling. Just run it under the tap with warm and a bar of soap. I have a towel that I use for dryig my many hacky sacks and it's got all these crazy color patterns because the dye leaks when you use warm water...looks quite cool. As for holes, I just grab a needle and thread and patch it up. Well anyway, talk to you all later. *You probably won't actually be screaming my name at any time Brad Darb Sllim From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Thu Aug 16 00:59:17 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA03962 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:59:17 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from llic.net (sql.market.net [209.125.90.2]) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA03958 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:59:16 -0700 Received: from I (dhcp-24-0-14-194.corp.home.net [24.0.14.194]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA06520 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:51:57 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: brat@209.125.90.2 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:51:55 -0700 To: freestyle@footbag.org From: Steve Goldberg Subject: [freestyle] Call for video Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Folks, Since footbag.org is the most popular footbag site, and has about 65,000 visitors a month, I think it'd be smart if we updated the video gallery to include some of the newer stuff. I know a lot of people like having footbag video on their own websites, but it'll really help all of us if we *also* have it on footbag.org. My system is set up to allow easily integration of video from other websites into the directory on footbag.org, so it doesn't have to be all or nothing. To that end, can people please e-mail me (just me, not the whole list) if you have any video from Worlds 2001, 2000, or the European Championships and would lik me to include it on the footbag.org video gallery? I prefer DV format (either a mini-DV tape or a DVD-ROM or other media already scanned or transferred to me via the internet), else video that has already digitized at a high resolution using DV, Quicktime/Sorenson, or other non-Microsoft-proprietary codec. (If you don't know what that meant, you probably don't have what I need. :-)) If you have mini DV tape, and trust me to send it back, just send me your originals via Fed Ex. I will pay for shipping. Contact me for details. Else, if you are computer-savvy and can put it online somewhere for me (or already have it online), I can either make a copy on footbag.org or leave it on your server, but either way add it to the video gallery. You may be required to do a little bit of work to help me make it work, though. Thanks. Steve From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Fri Aug 17 20:08:40 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA16545 for freestyle-outgoing; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 20:08:40 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from web11603.mail.yahoo.com (web11603.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.55]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id KAA22585 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:31:56 -0700 Message-ID: <20010817173156.27935.qmail@web11603.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [198.81.16.167] by web11603.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:31:56 PDT Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:31:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Ellis Piltz Subject: [freestyle] name To: freestyle@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hey stylers, I've been going by the name "Ellis" for a while, so I thought I should mention it here. It's not a big deal, I just don't want everyone wondering if Ellis is the same person as Eli, or if he's my brother or something. It's still me. Ellis Piltz From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Fri Aug 17 23:16:12 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA17375 for freestyle-outgoing; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 23:16:12 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f From: Matthew Cross Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA04014 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 15:55:13 -0700 Received: from MatthewL329@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.4.) id z.47.f834a03 (24896) for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:55:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <47.f834a03.28aefacd@aol.com> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 18:55:09 EDT Subject: [freestyle] ride/floor space for Funtastik? To: freestyle@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Dear East Coast Freestyle Community, I'm looking for a ride to the Funtastik Summer Classic in Harrisburg, PA. I live in Rome, NY, and go to school in Rochester, NY, and could be picked up in either places, depending on convenience for the ride giver. If anyone's coming through central NY, please drop me a line, as I would love to go to this competition... Thanks much, Matthew Cross From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Mon Aug 20 10:07:48 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA02484 for freestyle-outgoing; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 10:07:48 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from web12806.mail.yahoo.com (web12806.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.41]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id XAA16013 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 23:30:18 -0700 Message-ID: <20010820063017.4549.qmail@web12806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [163.41.248.252] by web12806.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 19 Aug 2001 23:30:17 PDT Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 23:30:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Baker Subject: [freestyle] Freestyle at burning man? To: freestyle@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org I was wondering if there are any freestylers going to burning man next weekend?? Me and my girlfriend will be there juggeling and freestyling all week. If you are going e-mail me and we can set up a jam time or somewhere to meet. Peace matt From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Mon Aug 20 11:27:38 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA02585 for freestyle-outgoing; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:27:38 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from alpha.math.uga.edu (alpha.math.uga.edu [128.192.3.9]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id LAA03178 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:24:18 -0700 Received: from localhost (faber@localhost) by alpha.math.uga.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA02579 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:24:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:24:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Faber To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] Lavers and Georgia Kickers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org I have two questions to pose to the list. 1) Does anyone out there have a pair of the old lavers (not Chinese) in size 11.5 that are either new or in great condition that they'd be willing to part with? I can't stand the new lavers, but that's all anyone seems to be selling these days. Please reply privately if you can help me. 2) Are there any new kickers in northern Georgia? I've checked the member list, but I know some people are sluggish about updating account info when they move. I am now kicking in Athens, GA, and was wondering if anyone was around to shred with. Again, please reply privately. Shred on, Alex Integer of P.S.T. Original Recipe From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Mon Aug 20 12:36:58 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA02719 for freestyle-outgoing; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:36:58 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from llic.net (sql.market.net [209.125.90.2]) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02716 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:36:58 -0700 Received: from I (p60.footbag.org [209.125.90.60]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA06388 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:36:36 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: brat@209.125.90.2 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:36:37 -0700 To: freestyle@footbag.org From: Steve Goldberg Subject: [freestyle] Reminder of freestyle@footbag.org list policies Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Members of the freestyle e-mail list, This is a reminder of an e-mail that I sent out a while ago letting everyone know of the new list policies for the footbag.org discussion lists. Please take the time to read this message as it will save you and me and my volunteers on footbag.org a lot of time. (1) Rejection: Expect your post to be rejected if you haven't read the policies below and are not adhering to them. We no longer guarantee to write e-mails explaining the reasons for rejecting posts. It just becomes too much of a burden to get into a discussion with every person. If your message is not suitable for the list, it simply won't show up. For newer members, we'll still give some feedback to help you understand the guidelines because they are not all clearly documented. For you regulars who keep getting bounced, and you know who you are, sorry but if your message doesn't show up and you see other messages showing up with a send date after yours, that means it was rejected. If you don't like this new policy or any of the policies we're going to begin enforcing, we urge you to go start your own list. (2) Thinking: Please don't reply willy-nilly to posts on the list. Think it out, decide whether or not you want to post the message to the entire list or just to a person you're talking to. And then, carefully consider whether your message will be rejected. It wastes the moderator's time and yours if you post a message that will be rejected. And you know who you are, those of you who have the same types of posts rejected over and over again, so please cool it. (3) Signatures and From lines: Use your real full name (first and last) in the From: line of your outgoing e-mail (you must configure this in your mail preferences). Use proper capitalization in your name. (E.g., if your name is John Smith, put John Smith in your name setting on your e-mail program; do *not* put "john smith".) ONLY users of AOL will be allowed to leave their names off the From: header because many AOL users can't set this up. But all AOL users *must* put their full name in the signature. Not just first name. Both names. No exceptions. With proper capitalization. ("Proper capitalization" does NOT mean ALL-CAPS. It means *proper* capitalization. Everyone should have learned this in second grade. If you are not old enough to have gone to second grade, you are not allowed to post to the list.) (4) Read up before posting: Do not post any messages to the list until you're *completely* caught up! That means, before you post a single message, read *all* the mail on the list that has arrived since you last read mail. Then, reply to the thread(s) you have replies for, and in some cases take the opportunity to reply to multiple messages on the *same thread* in the *same message*. Don't rapid-fire 6 messages on the same thread the same night, replying to everyone else's posts. That's just a pain for everyone. But be warned if you post a single reply to multiple different threads (see 7 below), you will be rejected. (5) Don't be lazy: Don't include the entire message you're replying to in your post. Cut it down to just the bit you're actually referring to, to give folks context (in fact, this is requested, see 6). (6) Give context for follow-up messages: Similarly, don't reply without giving context! Always use the same subject line as the thing to which you're replying, and include a snippet of the specific point to which you're replying (and not the whole message, please). Use the *REPLY* function of your mail program, which will help you. Don't manually type Subject: lines because you'll probably get it wrong. For the threading feature of many people's mail readers to work properly, the subject lines have to be exactly right. Otherwise, if you randomly change the subject line every time you post, nobody can keep track of the conversation. Especially not a year from now when they're perusing the archives. (Has everyone seen the archives? It helps a lot to do that to get some idea why this matters. http://list.footbag.org/ ) (7) Stick to one thread at a time: Don't combine two threads into one unless you really mean to. Keep them separate so people can follow the various conversations (see 4 above). Use your reply button/command to reply to messages on the list, so that the Subject: header is correctly reformatted to keep threads together as described above. (8) Keep your e-mail address up to date: Don't post to the list from an e-mail address in the From: line that is not subscribed to the list. If you change e-mail addresses, you must update your list membership (see http://list.footbag.org/). (9) Post to list addresses only when necessary: Don't write the list itself when you can write a more specific address. a. If you want to talk to someone and you can't remember their address, don't post to the list saying, "Hey, so-and-so, if you're out there, write me." The member directory at http://www.footbag.org/members/ is your best source of contact information, and/or the list archives which show the e-mail address of everyone posting (at http://list.footbag.org/). b. If you want to unsubscribe or have an administrative question regarding the list, for goodness' sake just ask the administrator (me) directly. If people don't know my e-mail address by now, ... Also, don't be afraid that I'll bite your head off. Just expect it, and it won't hurt so much. :-) c. If you are replying to a message, never send your mail without looking back over it, seeing if the freestyle list is cc'ed or not, and only cc it if you are really sure! Many messages can just go privately and don't need to go to the list. Consider private e-mail to follow up public posts, as opposed to completely open conversations. (Visualize it this way: every time you post to the freestyle list, you're walking up to the podium in a large auditorium and seizing the microphone. Vs. just walking over to someone who has just spoken over the microphone and continuing a private conversation on the sidelines.) (10) No advertisements: Don't even think of blatantly advertising for products or services for your own personal gain, or for that of anyone else. It's fine to edify and inform people of products, rate them and discuss them, etc., but it becomes a problem if it turns into a formal endorsement or advertisement. I run this list, under the auspices of a non-profit corporation, and with resources that cost me over $120 a month at the current rate. I will not have the list turn into a marketplace. I will not be responsible for transactions that go bad as a result of a member of my website or this e-mail list entering into any financial interaction with any other player or member. (11) No HTML mail ("rich text" in Hotmail, default in AOL 6.0): Please (PLEASE) don't use HTML mail (ever). It is stupid in general, but especially problematic for the footbag discussion lists. Fully half of our members are on the digest version of the list, which puts all mail inline into a huge message every day and mails it to them, and HTML mail simply doesn't work (it looks like garbage to non-computer geeks). I personally hate the digest and am thinking about killing it because of all the problems it causes. But since we still have so many people using it, please respect them and only post *plain text*. Otherwise, the digest will be completely illegible. If you post HTML, I will reply with a reject message to tell you to fix it. But you have to figure out how. I can't spend the time to teach everyone how to use e-mail. You people on AOL 6.0, please call AOL and complain and/or ask them how to disable HTML for your outgoing mail. Hotmail users need to always make sure the "rich text format" checkbox on your "compose" screen is *UNCHECKED*. (Mac users on Hotmail don't have to worry. It does the right thing.) Never send mail to the list in "rich text". Plain text means e-mail with absolutely no mark-up -- no bold-facing, no underlining, no font changes, nothing. Just plain, simple, text. I'm sure there's more, but you get the idea. Thanks. Steve From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Mon Aug 20 14:08:42 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02833 for freestyle-outgoing; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:08:42 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from llic.net (sql.market.net [209.125.90.2]) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02830 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:08:41 -0700 Received: from I (p60.footbag.org [209.125.90.60]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA09964 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:08:16 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: brat@209.125.90.2 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:08:17 -0700 To: freestyle@footbag.org From: Steve Goldberg Subject: Re: [freestyle] Reminder of freestyle@footbag.org list policies Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Folks, I just had to show everyone this. This is incredible. If anyone else does this I will ban them from all footbag.org services now and into the future. I just finished explaining that this was against the policy, and I even told people how to get off the list. For anyone else out there who wants to get off the list, please learn the old addage: "you get out the same way you got in". Everyone please be responsible, don't be lazy, and think. There's a website that answers *all* of your questions. Figure it out. For the rest of you who are upstanding members, please forgive this outburst on my part. :-) Thanks. Steve >Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:35:03 -0700 (PDT) >From: irizhpac (real name "Sean James" but left off) >To: freestyle@list.footbag.org >Subject: Re: [freestyle] Reminder of freestyle@footbag.org list policies > >yo i wanna get off the mailin list so kan u stop me, e >mail me bak at tharow7@yahoo.com From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Mon Aug 20 19:11:30 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA03330 for freestyle-outgoing; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:11:30 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id SAA18750 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:45:40 -0700 Received: from dinningroom (sdn-ar-001ilchicP066.dialsprint.net [206.133.102.50]) by falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA11033 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:45:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001d01c129e2$fa410f40$0100a8c0@mshome.net> From: "Robert Martin" To: Subject: [freestyle] Pixie and Fairy Set Help Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:45:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org I was looking for tips on pixie and fairy sets. I can get the dex, but the bag always seems to travel towards the side and not up and down. Thanks, Robert Martin From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Mon Aug 20 19:22:54 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA03387 for freestyle-outgoing; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:22:54 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f From: Josh Childs Received: from imo-d10.mx.aol.com (imo-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.42]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id TAA19853 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 19:21:40 -0700 Received: from Nageylum@aol.com by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.4.) id f.ad.f1e4b00 (3966); Mon, 20 Aug 2001 22:21:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 22:21:02 EDT Subject: Re: [freestyle] Pixie and Fairy Set Help To: freestyle@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 107 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Howdy folks, In a message dated 8/20/2001 10:12:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tm44@earthlink.net writes: > I was looking for tips on pixie and fairy sets. I can get the dex, but the > bag always seems to travel towards the side and not up and down. The best way to really start nailing that pixie and fairy set is by hesitating just the slightest bit before the pixie/fairy dex is done. This doesn't translate to well into double pixie sets to well, but it's a way to get you started. Josh Childs From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Tue Aug 21 10:12:20 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA04296 for freestyle-outgoing; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:12:20 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from balle (nas-cbv-5-45-119.dial.proxad.net [212.27.45.119]) by postfix2-1.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 92E73118 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:07:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <003601c12a41$9954d900$772d1bd4@balle> From: "Maxime Boucoiran" To: References: <200108201951.MAA02750@list.footbag.org> Subject: [freestyle] just a couple of freestyle questions Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:02:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hello everyone, I've been reading the list for a while and a couple of posts contain terms I'm just not familiar with, maybe someone could help me out. What is "surging" (I think someone posted that he hit a surging op butterfly or something). Although I understand Job's Notation fairly well, the spin description is still fairly ambiguous. Could someone tell me: If you set from a right foot clipper (so on the left side of your body) do you spin anti clockwise or clockwise for a FRONT spin. Once that is explained, is the fact that a spin is FRONT or BACK the difference a trick is spinning or inspinning? I beleive a quantum set is a miraging set from the toe (TOE > OP IN [DEX] > ...). Yet I'm not sure, can anyone confirm? I'm sure this has been hit countless times before so what is the name for a fairy atomic *SET*. i.e: TOE > SAME IN [DEX] > OP OUT [DEX] > (something else here) It's basically the equivalent (i mean double dex set) of a shooting set, but from a toe. One final question: Has a trick ever been hit with TWO symposium adds in it? A friend of mine can hit symposium mirage *sets* (fairly low for the moment but he's working on it). So a symposium mirage followed by a symposium mirage with the other leg in ONE trick seems physically doable. Thanks in advance to all who reply. Max From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Tue Aug 21 12:43:18 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA04451 for freestyle-outgoing; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:43:18 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:25:50 -0700 Received: from 194.100.164.116 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 19:25:49 GMT X-Originating-IP: [194.100.164.116] From: "Jyri Ilama" To: freestyle@list.footbag.org Subject: Re: [freestyle] just a couple of freestyle questions Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 19:25:49 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Aug 2001 19:25:50.0040 (UTC) FILETIME=[15ECCD80:01C12A77] Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Maxime wrote: >What is "surging" (I think someone posted that he hit a surging op >butterfly >or something). Surging set is the 'same' as a gyro stepping (well, actually gyro miraging). So, when you set the bag from your eg. right clipper, turn a bit clockwise so that the bag goes under your right leg.. So a surging op butterfly would be a 'gyro ripwalk'. >Although I understand Job's Notation fairly well, the spin description is >still fairly ambiguous. Could someone tell me: If you set from a right foot >clipper (so on the left side of your body) do you spin anti clockwise or >clockwise for a FRONT spin. a BACK spin is when you turn your back to the bag at first and so on. So, I you're hitting a FRONT spin from your right clipper, you must turn counterclockwise. >I beleive a quantum set is a miraging set from the toe (TOE > OP IN [DEX] > >...). Yet I'm not sure, can anyone confirm? That's correct. >I'm sure this has been hit countless times before so what is the name for a >fairy atomic *SET*. i.e: >TOE > SAME IN [DEX] > OP OUT [DEX] > (something else here) If you mean Pixie atomic set, I think that's called a SAILING. Correct me if I'm wrong. :P >One final question: Has a trick ever been hit with TWO symposium adds in >it? I've been working on a 'flailing' (or yeah, Symposium atomic) set for some time. But haven't hit any symposium tricks after the first symposium dexterity yet.. I've tried to nail a Symposium Tap a few times but haven't succeeded yet.. I'm sure someone has though...? but, Shred on guys! Jyri Ilama Finland From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Wed Aug 22 11:38:27 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA05821 for freestyle-outgoing; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:38:27 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from ds9.bie.ispi.net (root@ds9.bie.ispi.net [206.131.202.23]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id JAA24516 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:55:28 -0700 Received: from chrish.planetquake.com (chekov.bie.ispi.net [206.131.202.206]) by ds9.bie.ispi.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f7MGtJD25121 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:55:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20010822104412.00ad3ca0@mail.planetquake.com> X-Sender: shatter@mail.planetquake.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:50:32 -0500 To: freestyle@footbag.org From: Chris Holden Subject: [freestyle] hit a whating what-walk? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Last night I was experimenting with spinning in a Ripwalk. I go for a Torque, but instead of the osis after the spin (180), I hit an op butterfly. The Jobs' Notation would look like this: CLIP > OP IN [DEX] > (back) SPIN [BOD] > OP OUT [DEX] > OP CLIP [XBD] [DEL] My main question is what is this called, but I'm also taking suggestions as to what I should follow up this move with. I would like to continue the spin into a spinning dragonfly or spinning mirage. This is some goofy stuff that mostly came bailing bigger moves: when I first tried to learn Torque, I was hitting a same side butterfly instead of the osis (another, wtf is this?): CLIP > OP IN [DEX] > (back) SPIN [BOD] > SAME OUT [DEX] > OP CLIP [XBD] [DEL] Though sometimes I wouldn't hit that so clean and end up with a Wrap instead of a Butterfly CLIP > OP IN [DEX] > (back) SPIN [BOD] > OP INSIDE [DEL] > OP OUT [DEX] > OP CLIP [XBD] any clues as to what's going on with those? Thanks, Chris Holden mailto:cholden@4drulers.com http://www.4drulers.com From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Wed Aug 22 11:47:38 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA05835 for freestyle-outgoing; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:47:38 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from llic.net (sql.market.net [209.125.90.2]) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05832 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:47:37 -0700 Received: from I (p60.footbag.org [209.125.90.60]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id LAA28400 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:47:09 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: brat@209.125.90.2 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.2.20010822104412.00ad3ca0@mail.planetquake.com> References: <4.3.1.2.20010822104412.00ad3ca0@mail.planetquake.com> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:47:03 -0700 To: freestyle@footbag.org From: Steve Goldberg Subject: Re: [freestyle] hit a whating what-walk? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org At 11:50 AM -0500 8/22/01, Chris Holden wrote: >Last night I was experimenting with spinning in a Ripwalk. I go for >a Torque, but instead of the osis after the spin (180), I hit an op >butterfly. The Jobs' Notation would look like this: >CLIP > OP IN [DEX] > (back) SPIN [BOD] > OP OUT [DEX] > OP CLIP [XBD] [DEL] I'm pretty sure you're talking about the newly-named "surging" set. If you think of the move slightly differently -- e.g., as the bag's going up, you do a stepping set and spin away, then as the bag's going down you do whatever trick you want. So we call it a "surging" whatever depending on the trick you end with after the stepping, spinning set. Steve From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Wed Aug 22 12:24:22 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA05882 for freestyle-outgoing; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:24:22 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from clem.mscd.edu (clem.mscd.edu [147.153.1.3]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA29173 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 12:20:33 -0700 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.clem.mscd.edu by clem.mscd.edu (PMDF V6.0-025 #39412) id <0GIH02M01HQ09F@clem.mscd.edu> for freestyle@footbag.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:20:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from webmail.mscd.edu ([147.153.1.20]) by clem.mscd.edu (PMDF V6.0-025 #39412) with ESMTP id <0GIH02L5OHQ0QZ@clem.mscd.edu> for freestyle@footbag.org; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:20:24 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 13:07:19 -0600 From: Brad Kaplan Subject: Re: [freestyle] hit a whating what-walk? To: freestyle Message-id: <3B7FAF6D@webmail.mscd.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.61 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-WebMail-UserID: kaplanb X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002971 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Chris Holden wrote: >>Last night I was experimenting with spinning in a Ripwalk. I go for >>a Torque, but instead of the osis after the spin (180), I hit an op >>butterfly. The Jobs' Notation would look like this: >>CLIP > OP IN [DEX] > (back) SPIN [BOD] > OP OUT [DEX] > OP CLIP [XBD] [DEL] Steve wrote: >I'm pretty sure you're talking about the newly-named "surging" set. I write: I don't think it is a surging set because the first dex would be the same as the set foot. I'm a little unclear as to which direction the spin is though. It looks like it would be a stepping gyro butterfly or if the spin is the other direction it would be a stepping inspinning butterfly. Later, Brad From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Wed Aug 22 15:26:16 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA06120 for freestyle-outgoing; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:26:16 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from femail25.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail25.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.15]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA01599 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 14:47:32 -0700 Received: from c1277828a ([65.0.19.184]) by femail25.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010822214726.EQTI21066.femail25.sdc1.sfba.home.com@c1277828a> for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 14:47:26 -0700 Message-ID: <002801c12b54$6dcd41a0$b8130041@sttls1.wa.home.com> From: "Jane Jones" To: Subject: Re: [freestyle] hit a whating what-walk? Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 14:50:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0006 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0006 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org At 11:50 AM -0500 8/22/01, Chris Holden wrote: >Last night I was experimenting with spinning in a Ripwalk. I go for >a Torque, but instead of the osis after the spin (180), I hit an op >butterfly. The Jobs' Notation would look like this: >CLIP > OP IN [DEX] > (back) SPIN [BOD] > OP OUT [DEX] > OP CLIP [XBD] [DEL] Hey hey, Don't quote me on this, but... your job's notation is different from the move you described with words (">a Torque, but instead of the osis after the spin (180), I hit an op butterfly.") To me, a torque...to a spin (180) butterfly sounds like you're describing Wulff's leaning set (blurry inspinning). Are you inspinning after your first dex (toward the set)? Then it's a leaning butterfly. Are you spinning away from your set (as you job-ed it...which wouldn't be leaning) and then doing a butterfly. That's a blurry gyro butterfly. I'd have to see it on video to understand exactly what you're saying... it doesn't sound surging to me though...you'd be doing a gyro mirage set if it was, and it sounds like you spin after the first dex, not before. In summary ======== According to your words: leaning butterfly According to your job's: blurry gyro butterfly -Jane From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Wed Aug 22 16:02:29 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA06167 for freestyle-outgoing; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:02:29 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from mail6.speakeasy.net (mail6.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.206]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA03635 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:46:19 -0700 Received: (qmail 52313 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2001 22:46:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dell) ([64.81.78.248]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Aug 2001 22:46:14 -0000 From: "Eric Wulff" To: "freestyle" Subject: RE: [freestyle] hit a whating what-walk? Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:45:08 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <3B7FAF6D@webmail.mscd.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org It seems the set being described here is a "leaning" set. If you in-spin after the step set it is a "lean" and it is a "go go" if you just spin after the step set. This isn't surging because that involves a spin before any dex occurs. Sounds like Chris is trying to hit or has hit a leaning butterfly. Eric Wulff From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Wed Aug 22 21:40:44 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA06672 for freestyle-outgoing; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 21:40:44 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from femail23.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail23.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.148]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA08389 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:47:56 -0700 Received: from c4720a ([24.255.228.128]) by femail23.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010823004750.IXVV14433.femail23.sdc1.sfba.home.com@c4720a> for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 17:47:50 -0700 Message-ID: <000701c12b77$a56448c0$80e4ff18@ftclns1.co.home.com> From: "Rick Reese" To: Subject: [freestyle] Kenny Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 19:02:21 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hello everybody, This is Rippin' Rick Reese still recovering from Worlds, What an amazing time we all had in Cali 2 weeks ago, if you missed it, you should be ashamed. The reason I'm writing is to tell everybody that today is Kenny Shults' .... The God of Footbag... 35th Birthday, so Happy Birthday Kenny, I missed you at Worlds. I'll call you soon, keep shreddin'. Your loyal follower, Rippin'. From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Sat Aug 25 12:44:37 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA15520 for freestyle-outgoing; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 12:44:37 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from tron ([24.77.12.29]) by femail41.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010825153959.YLAH3082.femail41.sdc1.sfba.home.com@tron> for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 08:39:59 -0700 Message-ID: <000d01c12d7c$b03459a0$1d0c4d18@gv.shawcable.net> From: "Allan Haggett" To: Subject: [freestyle] Worlds 2001 reflection Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 08:43:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org I just wanted to say that World's 2001 was something that I will never forget. As usual I made some friends and learned way more than just new footbag moves. Hanging out with extended family and getting to know them is what World's symbolises for me. I didn't get to say good bye to anyone as I took an offer that cut my greyhound trip in half, so I'll take this opportunity to thank everyone who attended and to try to give words to my gratitude for anyone who contributed in the effort to make sure I got home :) Yacine Merzouk.... man, it is good people like you who make communities work. Thank you my friend. I couldn't have even made it down without the help of friends. Lee Johnson - Next time your coming whether you can or not! Matt Baker - you saved me time on that damn bus...... my legs are indebted forever. Thanks for the crash space too.... Eugene is a beautiful city! I got to see the Flying Clipper store!! Alexander Faber & Gordon S. Bevier - I promise next time, I'll have new shoes that won't smell!!! Thanks for the crash space guys :) Sebastien - Team Canada - Don't Care ;) Anyhow, that's all I can think of to say right now...... there are lots more people that I'd like to thank, but for now this will have to do. Thanks for reading this :) bye..... From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Sat Aug 25 12:44:31 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA15515 for freestyle-outgoing; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 12:44:31 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (f198.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.198]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA25039 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 00:48:25 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 00:47:55 -0700 Received: from 203.164.2.198 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 24 Aug 2001 07:47:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.164.2.198] From: "Dan Ednie" To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] Gimpy Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 17:47:54 +1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Aug 2001 07:47:55.0020 (UTC) FILETIME=[15B514C0:01C12C71] Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Gidday List, I have been learning gimpy set lately and i have a few questions, 1. Does Gimpy get an add? 2. Why isn't it listed as a set on in the freestyle section 3. Has any one tried pixie gimpy ducking sets? 4. Can I name the pixie gimpy ducking set? You can work yourself up to doing pixie ducking by putting the gimpy in the middle. I hope to see lots of you at the X Games in December, Dan Ednie From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Sat Aug 25 12:46:06 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA15549 for freestyle-outgoing; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 12:46:06 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from saturn.wwc.edu (IDENT:postfix@saturn.wwc.edu [199.236.178.1]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA19978 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:47:25 -0700 Received: from student.wwc (student.wwc [10.82.5.3]) by saturn.wwc.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 93D4A676A6 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from WWC-Message_Server by student.wwc with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:47:25 -0700 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 20:47:03 -0700 From: "Erik Engeberg" To: Subject: [freestyle] Paradise? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by list.footbag.org id UAA08488 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Yesterday I hit an interesting one: toe > op out > same out > bod spin > same clipper Picture a paradon that ends on an osis with the same foot that does the dexterities. Paradise would be a cool name. -EdE- From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Sun Aug 26 03:32:04 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA19066 for freestyle-outgoing; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 03:32:04 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net (robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.65]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA05595 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 20:28:35 -0700 Received: from sam (CBL087.pool019.CH001-glendale.dhcp.hs.earthlink.net [24.41.78.87]) by robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net (8.11.5/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f7Q3SXo14629; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 20:28:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001d01c12ddf$22fac020$574e2918@charterpipeline.com> From: "Sam Colclough" To: "Erik Engeberg" , References: Subject: Re: [freestyle] Paradise? Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 20:28:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org "Erik Engeberg" wrote: > Yesterday I hit an interesting one: > toe > op out > same out > bod spin > same clipper > Picture a paradon that ends on an osis with the same foot that does the > dexterities. > Paradise would be a cool name. > -EdE- This move is called toe motion. Dizzy Sam From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Sun Aug 26 03:32:16 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA19071 for freestyle-outgoing; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 03:32:16 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from casey drcolossus@MyRealbox.com [63.14.39.123] by MyRealbox.com with Novell NIMS $Revision: 2.85 $ on Novell NetWare; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 02:44:56 -0600 Message-ID: <001501c12e0b$66fc1900$0600a8c0@casey> From: "Casey Jones" To: Subject: Re: [freestyle] Gimpy Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 02:45:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org 1. Does Gimpy get an add? When the bag hits your knee, it counts as a contact, which divides the gimpy set and whatever move you do afterwards into two seperate moves. So no extra add. But adds mean nothing and gimpy sets are fun and look awesome if done well. So school it anyway, on both sides of course. 3. Has any one tried pixie gimpy ducking sets? Yup. i've hit pixie gimpy ducking butterfly a few times. i also hit pixie gimpy ducking osis once, but that was a fluke i believe since i'm usually not good at ducking/diving osises. Another fun thing to try is a knee contact on the way *down* from a duck or dive. Or on the way up *and* down. But that looks sorta' funny, i must admit... [-: - casey From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Sun Aug 26 03:31:56 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA19061 for freestyle-outgoing; Sun, 26 Aug 2001 03:31:56 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net (robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.65]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id UAA05534 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 20:27:43 -0700 Received: from sam (CBL087.pool019.CH001-glendale.dhcp.hs.earthlink.net [24.41.78.87]) by robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net (8.11.5/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f7Q3Rfo09799; Sat, 25 Aug 2001 20:27:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001501c12ddf$040b7060$574e2918@charterpipeline.com> From: "Sam Colclough" To: "Dan Ednie" , References: Subject: Re: [freestyle] Gimpy Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 20:27:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org "Dan Ednie" wrote: > Gidday List, > I have been learning gimpy set lately and i have a few questions, > 1. Does Gimpy get an add? > 2. Why isn't it listed as a set on in the freestyle section The way that the current system defines moves has to do with contacts. Specifically, each contact is a move. You da da da da, and this and that, dex spin - whatever in between contacts to get adds. So, in accordance with this, by adding a knee bump you are actually doing two seperate moves. Gimping and pimping are very stylee though and not to be taken lightly :c). > 3. Has any one tried pixie gimpy ducking sets? Oh yes. > 4. Can I name the pixie gimpy ducking set? Only if you call it pimping ducking. People have been doing this for a while so let them name it... or wait just 16 more days. Just to clarify: stepping knee bump is gimping and pixie knee bump is pimping. Whether it is ipsilateral or contralateral to the set leg doesn't make a difference. So: toe > same in > same knee is pimping as is toe > same in > op knee Shred faster, Dizzy Sam From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Mon Aug 27 10:48:33 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25952 for freestyle-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:48:33 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from clem.mscd.edu (clem.mscd.edu [147.153.1.3]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id KAA11018 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:30:28 -0700 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.clem.mscd.edu by clem.mscd.edu (PMDF V6.0-025 #39412) id <0GIQ07C01LYM1Y@clem.mscd.edu> for freestyle@footbag.org; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:30:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from webmail.mscd.edu ([147.153.1.20]) by clem.mscd.edu (PMDF V6.0-025 #39412) with ESMTP id <0GIQ07AIULYMVT@clem.mscd.edu> for freestyle@footbag.org; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:30:22 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:17:11 -0600 From: Brad Kaplan Subject: Re: [freestyle] Gimpy To: freestyle Message-id: <3B81E634@webmail.mscd.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.61 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-WebMail-UserID: kaplanb X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002971 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Just to mention it since neither Casey nor Sam did. A gimpy that stalls on the knee instead of bumping it is called a "Stimpy". Later, Brad From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Mon Aug 27 17:25:18 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA26394 for freestyle-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 17:25:18 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (f47.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.47]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA16201 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:42:00 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:42:00 -0700 Received: from 165.247.32.14 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 19:41:59 GMT X-Originating-IP: [165.247.32.14] Reply-To: Ceiling-Fan@footbag.org From: "Ken Somolinos" To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] history questions Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 15:41:59 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Aug 2001 19:42:00.0073 (UTC) FILETIME=[56969790:01C12F30] Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hi everybody, Just some freestyle history questions I was curious about. Please only respond if you know the answers, I'm not that interested in guesses. That said, does anybody know: What was the first 5 add move hit? 4 add? What was the first triple dex move hit? What was the first 5-5 combo hit? 6-6? When was the first dropless routine at worlds and who did it? Who invented the dragon stall? Thanks. Hopefully I'll see some of y'all at Funtastik. Ken From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Mon Aug 27 17:25:22 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA26399 for freestyle-outgoing; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 17:25:22 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from itsa.ucsf.edu (itsa.ucsf.edu [128.218.95.21]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id QAA23969 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:34:52 -0700 Received: from localhost (sjani@localhost) by itsa.ucsf.edu (AIX4.3/UCB 8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA114612 for ; Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:34:51 -0700 Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:34:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Sunil Jani To: freestyle list Subject: [freestyle] Hackers vs. Hula Girls Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Shredders: http://play.nike.com/play/rateit.jsp The San Diego Shredders are going up against the Hula Girls today, and at last check the voting is at 50% to 50%... go to the above link and support your stylers. Go HULA GIRLS!!! Sunil S. Jani From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Tue Aug 28 01:38:20 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA26747 for freestyle-outgoing; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 01:38:20 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (f84.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.84]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id AAA11513 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 00:57:22 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 00:57:22 -0700 Received: from 203.164.2.198 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 07:57:22 GMT X-Originating-IP: [203.164.2.198] From: "Dan Ednie" To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: Re: [freestyle] Gimpy Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:57:22 +1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Aug 2001 07:57:22.0324 (UTC) FILETIME=[117FCD40:01C12F97] Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hello I was thinking about names and i think the pimping ducking set should be called Limpy/Limping. I hit Pimping ducking gimping toe delay toe>pixie>op knee>dive>knee>op toe I had the same set but ending in a butterfly hit my foot. I thought a good name for that or another Gimpy style move would be "Blimp" Bye Dan Ednie From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Tue Aug 28 14:32:59 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA28170 for freestyle-outgoing; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 14:32:59 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from clem.mscd.edu (clem.mscd.edu [147.153.1.3]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA00900 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:54:10 -0700 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.clem.mscd.edu by clem.mscd.edu (PMDF V6.0-025 #39412) id <0GIS00L01NA04K@clem.mscd.edu> for freestyle@footbag.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:54:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from webmail.mscd.edu ([147.153.1.20]) by clem.mscd.edu (PMDF V6.0-025 #39412) with ESMTP id <0GIS00L1FNA036@clem.mscd.edu> for freestyle@footbag.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:54:00 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:40:48 -0600 From: Brad Kaplan Subject: [freestyle] Cool rewinds To: freestyle@footbag.org Message-id: <3B828304@webmail.mscd.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.61 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-WebMail-UserID: kaplanb X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002971 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org I just wanted to gloat a little bit and also give some inspiration for some combos that would be awesome. I've always been a huge fan of rewind combos and a few weeks ago I hit 2 rewinds that I've wanted to hit for over a year. flurry > pixie-paradon pdx atom-smasher > atomic drifter Other's that I'd like to hit that you might like to hit as well are: Blurry drifter > pdx legbeater scorpian's tail > barroque pixie whirl > bubba legover (clipper set eggbeater) pdx torque > void Also I've been toying around with a new move that I've never seen and I'm getting pretty close to it. It's like a flurry but the 3rd dex is in/out. Job's= clip> op in> same in> op in> same toe. Anyone out there hit this or any sweet rewinds? Let me know, I love new ones. Later, Brad From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Tue Aug 28 14:33:01 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA28175 for freestyle-outgoing; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 14:33:01 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (f116.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.116]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA01039 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:58:21 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 12:58:20 -0700 Received: from 64.12.103.49 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 19:58:20 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.12.103.49] Reply-To: Ceiling-Fan@footbag.org From: "KeN Somolinos" To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: Fwd: Re: [freestyle] history questions Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:58:20 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Aug 2001 19:58:20.0940 (UTC) FILETIME=[C9A4C4C0:01C12FFB] Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hey all, Much thanks to Kenny Shults for sharing these answers. Though he's not 100% sure for all of them, they were really interesting for me so I wanted to share them with everybody. > > > > What was the first 5 add move hit? > >Double Spinning Osis 1984 >Amadeus 1984 > > > 4 add? > >Spinning Flying Butterfly 1981 > > > What was the first triple dex move hit? > >Triple Around the World 1984 (barefoot) > > > What was the first 5-5 combo hit? > >Symposium Whirling Swirl -> PS Whirl (Guess) > > > When was the first dropless routine at worlds and who did it? > >I think my first dropless was first round of 1989. Not sure if that was >first >singles dropless. Team dropless first was Bruce Guettich and Jim Caveney >when >they won. Not sure the year probably 1985 or so. Awesome! Shred on, Ken From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Tue Aug 28 14:33:02 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA28180 for freestyle-outgoing; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 14:33:02 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from mailbu.cc.uga.edu (malibu.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.103]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id OAA03743 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 14:02:08 -0700 Received: from archa8.cc.uga.edu (arch8.cc.uga.edu) by mailbu.cc.uga.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.0020DA61@mailbu.cc.uga.edu>; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:02:02 -0400 Received: from integer.uga.edu (host-209-215-50-23.ahn.bellsouth.net [209.215.50.23]) by archa8.cc.uga.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA125100 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:01:49 -0400 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010828163519.009f5ec0@imap.arches.uga.edu> X-Sender: integer@imap.arches.uga.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:00:14 -0400 To: freestyle@footbag.org From: Xander Faber Subject: [freestyle] Worlds 2001 Posts? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org I've been busy as hell with graduate school since the instant I showed up in Georgia, so I've been putting off writing this post. I notice a lot of other people have been doing so as well, so I want to give thanks to Inspector Haggett for starting the flow of things. First off, I want to say that Worlds 2001 was the bomb. I didn't play much, but I had a slammin' time when I did. Incidentally, I think 4-square ate a lot of the freestylers' interest, but who am I to complain. If I wouldn't have been into 4-square, I might have missed Yacine Merzouk's crushing defeat of Steve Goldberg ... and Steve takes the game VERY SERIOUSLY. Some serious thanks need to go to all of the people that coordinated the event, and then right behind them I'd like to thank Sam Conlon, Matt Baker, Lon Smith, and Forest Schrodt for driving my East Coast ass all over the place (no thanks go to the taxi driver that almost killed Flash Gordon and me on several occasions). Flash and I had to leave abruptly from the Pyramid, so I didn't get to say goodbye to everyone. It was great seein' everyone I've come to be close to in the shred community ... i.e. extended family to steal Allan's line ... and it was a great pleasure meeting all of the people who were new to me. I always boast to my friends that don't style about how tight the shred community is, and you never let me down. Finally, many propz go to everyone with new freestyle titles and newly defended titles, and a big shout out to Gordon Bevier and Sebastien Duchesne ... you guys school hard, and you deserve the recognition. Until the next event I manage to get to, Alex Faber Integer of P.S.T. Original Recipe P.S. Thanks to whomever is in charge of picking out spotlighted players. I'm flattered. [Ed. Note: that'd be me. -Steve] From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Tue Aug 28 20:32:59 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA29308 for freestyle-outgoing; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 20:32:59 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from clem.mscd.edu (clem.mscd.edu [147.153.1.3]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id PAA06267 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:11:47 -0700 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.clem.mscd.edu by clem.mscd.edu (PMDF V6.0-025 #39412) id <0GIS00Y01TNNI9@clem.mscd.edu> for freestyle@footbag.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 16:11:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from webmail.mscd.edu ([147.153.1.20]) by clem.mscd.edu (PMDF V6.0-025 #39412) with ESMTP id <0GIS00WR2TNMFW@clem.mscd.edu> for freestyle@footbag.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 16:11:47 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:58:34 -0600 From: Brad Kaplan Subject: Re: [freestyle] Cool rewinds To: freestyle@footbag.org Message-id: <3B82974C@webmail.mscd.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.61 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-WebMail-UserID: kaplanb X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002971 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org >> pdx torque > void I wanted to correct myself here since that combo isn't a rewind. It should be Aeon Flux > Void. or pdx torque > spinning royale (I think royale is pdx reverse drifter) Anyway, the first is the one I want to hit and the second is the one I only have wet dreams about. Later, Brad From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Tue Aug 28 23:21:17 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA29427 for freestyle-outgoing; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:21:17 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (f181.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.181]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id RAA10339 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:00:55 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:00:54 -0700 Received: from 208.141.176.34 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 00:00:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [208.141.176.34] From: "Jim Penske" To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: Re: [freestyle] Cool rewinds Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 00:00:54 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Aug 2001 00:00:54.0750 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC63EFE0:01C1301D] Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Rewinds are the shit!! I like pixie swirl - reverse swirling legover I've got a couple for you Sunil. Fusion - barraging paradox mirage!! Blurriest - Jani Walker Just a few ideas. peace, Jim From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Wed Aug 29 14:06:45 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA30186 for freestyle-outgoing; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:06:45 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from web5302.mail.yahoo.com (web5302.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.106.111]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with SMTP id MAA18467 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:48:09 -0700 Message-ID: <20010829194808.9435.qmail@web5302.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.204.144.74] by web5302.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:48:08 PDT Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:48:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Lon Smith To: freestyle@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hello List, this is Norchi. Or Lawn depending on if you are from Finland or not. I think this is true blurry knee bump = gimpy blurry inside kick = wimpy ducking knee bump = limpy? sounds good to me atomic knee bump = bumpy I was also curious what a shortly cut grassy front yard is called in other languages. Peace Lonman P.S. Drugs don't help you kick footbags. From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Wed Aug 29 14:06:43 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA30181 for freestyle-outgoing; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:06:43 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from clem.mscd.edu (clem.mscd.edu [147.153.1.3]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id MAA16981 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:17:49 -0700 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.clem.mscd.edu by clem.mscd.edu (PMDF V6.0-025 #39412) id <0GIU03A01G9J9B@clem.mscd.edu> for freestyle@footbag.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:17:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from webmail.mscd.edu ([147.153.1.20]) by clem.mscd.edu (PMDF V6.0-025 #39412) with ESMTP id <0GIU03988G9IO1@clem.mscd.edu> for freestyle@footbag.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:17:43 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:04:30 -0600 From: Brad Kaplan Subject: [freestyle] Aeon Flux and Void To: freestyle@footbag.org Message-id: <3B830197@webmail.mscd.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.61 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-WebMail-UserID: kaplanb X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002971 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Since there were so many responses asking about Aeon Flux and Void I thought I'd post to the whole list. Aeon Flux is a Paradox Flux or a Nuclear Osis My job's sucks when it comes to talking about osis ending moves but here goes: Clip > same in > spin > op clip. As for Void... I originally thought it was called Lotus, but Rick Reese told me it was supposed to be called Void which fits so nicely with it's non-paradox counterpart Vortex. Job's: clip > back spin > op in > same clip I hope that clears things up for everybody. Don't Shred on Me, Brad From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Wed Aug 29 14:06:46 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA30191 for freestyle-outgoing; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:06:46 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from clem.mscd.edu (clem.mscd.edu [147.153.1.3]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA21335 for ; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 13:49:16 -0700 Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.clem.mscd.edu by clem.mscd.edu (PMDF V6.0-025 #39412) id <0GIU03G01KHGNU@clem.mscd.edu> for freestyle@footbag.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:49:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from webmail.mscd.edu ([147.153.1.20]) by clem.mscd.edu (PMDF V6.0-025 #39412) with ESMTP id <0GIU00HEGKH9VE@clem.mscd.edu> for freestyle@footbag.org; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:48:45 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 14:35:32 -0600 From: Brad Kaplan Subject: [freestyle] Anyone hit this? To: freestyle@footbag.org Message-id: <3B8314C8@webmail.mscd.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: WebMail (Hydra) SMTP v3.61 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-WebMail-UserID: kaplanb X-EXP32-SerialNo: 00002971 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org It would be like a Smog but the last dex would be in/out. Job's: toe > same in > op in > op in > same toe If so, does it have a name. I've come close but haven't tried it in a while. Later, Brad From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Thu Aug 30 01:06:30 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA31024 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 01:06:30 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from hotmail.com (f30.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.30]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id BAA09829 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 01:04:13 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 01:04:13 -0700 Received: from 128.214.157.20 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 08:04:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [128.214.157.20] From: "Samuli Viitanen" To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: Re: [freestyle] Cool rewinds Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 08:04:12 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Aug 2001 08:04:13.0327 (UTC) FILETIME=[5B4D61F0:01C1312A] Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hi list! Brad Kaplan wrote: > >> pdx torque > void > > I wanted to correct myself here since that combo isn't a rewind. It >should be > Aeon Flux > Void. A few simple questions: What moves are 'Aeon Flux' and 'Void'? Never heard. I know that flux is a clipper set torque with the dexterity reversed, but what kind of a set is the 'Aeon' -set? Or is it a set? -Samuli Viitanen, Team Finland ps. I think blur to legbeater is quite cool. From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Thu Aug 30 13:28:05 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA03101 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:28:05 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f From: Matthew Cross Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id LAA28450 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:06:55 -0700 Received: from MatthewL329@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.4.) id z.3c.10b4b9eb (18564) for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:06:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3c.10b4b9eb.28bfdab6@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:06:46 EDT Subject: [freestyle] Need a ride to Funtastik? To: freestyle@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hey NY - PA Stylers, I will be travelling on I-90 in NY from rochester to Route 81, and taking route 81 all the way to harrisburg. Anyone in need of a ride that isn't too far off my beaten path? I think I'll have room for 2 more people, maybe 3 in the car if you guys like smashing in together. I'm leaving in the morning on saturday, September 1st. Hurry, supplies are limited. Don't wait, order now! :) KICK!, Matthew Cross From owner-freestyle@list.footbag.org Thu Aug 30 14:06:10 2001 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA03460 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:06:10 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-freestyle@footbag.org using -f Received: from bkb01-ims-01.ikon.com (bkb01-ims-01.ikon.com [205.145.1.251]) by llic.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA04151 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:47:49 -0700 Received: by bkb01-ims-01.ikon.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:47:32 -0400 Message-ID: <1FC5532D6B96D411874200D0B782DA88012F399E@phl01-msx-04.ikon.org> From: "Bob Reefer" To: "'freestyle@footbag.org'" Subject: [freestyle] Got to Funtastiks Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:47:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hey all- The Funtastik Summer Classic is this weekend. You should go. Here's why I think so. 1) It's such a fun tournament. There are events at the Funtastik that you don't get at every tournament. For example, in past years I've watched Wulff, Scott Davidson, Greg Nelson, and others nearly kill themselves in the Iron man competition. Really fun to watch (if you don't know the iron man... come see it!!). 2) The level of shred and of competition always rocks. Every year there are great competitors at this tournament, as well as a lot of newcomers. The prizes (monetary and otherwise) are always sweet too. 3) Brenda and Joe (tourney directors) are so nice. 4) The Kipona street festival. Not only does the festival bring in tons of people (many of whom make repeated trips past the footbag events to watch stylers etc.) but it's really a fun event in and of itself. There's usually a chilli tasting, all sorts of stands, tons of food, boat races, fireworks. It's just a good time -- especially with footbag being planted in the middle of it. 5) There are great accommodations nearby. Hotels are plentiful, and camping is cheap and safe. Check the event listing for details. OK, I could go on and on. It's going to be a blast, so hopefully you'll make the trip if at all possible. [Ed. Note: if you want to register for this tournament, on-line registration closes TONIGHT. So please go now to http://www.footbag.org/registration/register?tid=991757909 and sign up to avoid the late registration fee. -Steve] Later on. Bob Riefer Philly Footworks