From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Sun Jun 1 00:11:48 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id AAA08128 for freestyle-outgoing; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 00:11:34 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id AAA08124 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 00:11:32 GMT Received: from aloe@vcn.bc.ca () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (8121) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA08119 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 00:11:30 GMT Received: from vcn.bc.ca (opus.vcn.bc.ca [207.102.64.2]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA28737 for ; Sat, 31 May 1997 17:11:44 -0700 Received: (from aloe@localhost) by vcn.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA02390; Sat, 31 May 1997 17:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 17:11:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Juliet Pendray Subject: [freestyle] RE: emerald city To: freestyle@footbag.org cc: aloe@vcn.bc.ca In-Reply-To: <199705312350.XAA08010@eniac.yak.net.taz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org > You should still be all psyched to go to Seattle and freestyle on the > sidelines. Freestyle as a competitive event is seldom offered at footbag > tournaments because of the requirement for critical mass of competitors. > You *better* go, though! The more freestylers who show up at footbag > tournaments, the better the possibility of there being a freestyle event > there! Hear, hear ! (what he said) J. "embracing brevity for social approval" P. From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Mon Jun 2 03:33:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id DAA14309 for freestyle-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 03:32:51 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id DAA14305 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 03:32:49 GMT Received: from dervish@juno.com () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (14302) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id DAA14300 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 03:32:49 GMT Received: from x5.boston.juno.com (x5.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.23]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA02503 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 1997 20:33:14 -0700 Received: (from dervish@juno.com) by x5.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id XUW22625; Sun, 01 Jun 1997 23:32:16 EDT To: freestyle@footbag.org Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 23:28:40 -0400 Subject: [freestyle] Re: [footbag] The Rake Message-ID: <19970601.232840.3582.2.dervish@juno.com> References: <19970601.202540.3454.0.Nathan6@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.22 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-7,9-13,15,17-18,23-28 From: dervish@juno.com (Josh Penney) Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org On Sun, 01 Jun 1997 21:26:04 EDT nathan6@juno.com (Nathan J Anderson) writes: >Can anybody describe to me the rake. I've attempted this move along >with some of my friends and we just can't seem to figure it out. > Nathan Whoo! Hi Nathan! Well, have you seen a pendulum? It's sorta the same thing, backwards. It looks really cool,. like a swooshing sort of movement, where the player 'grabs' the bag from behind him and throws it into the air. Try it! Like this: 1. Set the bag up, say from your right toe, about shoulder high. 2. turn left,. so that the bag is about a half a foot behind you, and simultaneously lift your right foot near it. 3. get your toe on the bag, while the bag is still in the air and pull it down in an arc, and follow thru so it flies up in front of you. you can also do a "cross body rake", which is the same, except you contact the bag from a xbody position, that is to say the bag would travel from your left side, behind your left leg , and contacted the right foot in the same way. These look like mirages, but with a much larger turn, higher initial contact and a BIG follow-through. Good luck! ]JP From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Mon Jun 2 14:56:33 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id OAA16573 for freestyle-outgoing; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 14:56:02 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id OAA16569 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 14:56:00 GMT Received: from dfogle@mlerf.org () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (16566) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA16564 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 14:56:00 GMT Received: from trib1.trib.net (trib1.trib.net [206.27.194.1]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA05681 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 07:56:30 -0700 Received: from mlerf.org (www.mlerf.org [206.27.195.3]) by trib1.trib.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA09949 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 1997 09:56:27 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: [freestyle] Gimping Moves Message-Id: <000000189962948108238@mlerf.org> From: dfogle@mlerf.org (Derrick Fogle, MLERF) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 08:57:18 -0600 Organization: MLERF X-Mailer: CommuniGate 2.9 Reply-To: dfogle@mlerf.org (Derrick Fogle, MLERF) To: freestyle@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org On Fri, May 30, 1997, 10:24:43 PM (US CST) Verhoef Anne wrote: >I was curious on the add rating of gimping moves. >Also, if you went: clip > op inout dex > op knee kick > same in out dex Now wait a minute!!!! Has someone re-invented my knee-bump moves, and named them "GIMPING"?!? I deeply resemble that remark! How dare you.... I'll have you know I've been 'gimping' moves since about 1990 (you young whippersnapper). Actually, its coo that someone else has started playing around with these moves. They are sort of like a double-time tempo moves. Steve is right; do them because they are fun. At least since they are a kick (a non-add contact) they only reduce your add ratio if you put it in between other add elements. Derrick From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Tue Jun 3 18:37:29 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id SAA24397 for freestyle-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 18:37:05 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id SAA24393 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 18:37:03 GMT Received: from nhall@ncsa.uiuc.edu () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (24390) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA24388 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 18:37:02 GMT Received: from ncsa.uiuc.edu (sdgmail.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.103.66]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15626 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 11:37:44 -0700 Received: from void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (void [141.142.103.20]) by ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29632 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 13:38:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from nhall@localhost) by void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.2/8.8.2) id NAA00498; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 13:37:40 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 1997 13:37:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Nicholas Hall To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: Re: [freestyle] Re: [footbag] The Rake In-Reply-To: <19970601.232840.3582.2.dervish@juno.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org On Sun, 1 Jun 1997, Josh Penney wrote: > you can also do a "cross body rake", which is the same, except you > contact the bag from a xbody position, that is to say the bag would > travel from your left side, behind your left leg , and contacted the > right foot in the same way. These look like mirages, but with a much > larger turn, higher initial contact and a BIG follow-through. Nathan- I agree, the xbody rake is a great move to learn, and not too hard. Just set from the left toe, somewhat behind you, and turn about a quarter turn to your right. You have to snag the footbag blind, but after you try it a couple of times, you'll get the hang of where the bag will be. And it looks very snazzy, especially to novices who have never seen a rake, and don't know that it's really not too hard! Nick ----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Nick Hall | nhall@ncsa.uiuc.edu | http://hobbes.ncsa.uiuc.edu/nhall | | National Center for Supercomputing App's | University of Illinois | | "You'll hear a lot of people talking about individual freedom- But | | when they see a free individual, boy, they get scared" -Easy Rider | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Tue Jun 3 21:32:27 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id VAA25282 for freestyle-outgoing; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 21:32:05 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id VAA25278 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 21:32:03 GMT Received: from ratcliff@advtel.net () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (25275) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA25273 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 21:32:03 GMT Received: from noc1.eatel.net (noc1.eatel.net [207.101.8.253]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA16964 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 14:32:45 -0700 Received: from p166 (max2-89.eatel.net [207.101.8.89]) by noc1.eatel.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA12243; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 17:00:23 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970603162329.007c5620@mail.advtel.net> X-Sender: ratcliff@mail.advtel.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 16:23:29 -0500 To: freestyle@footbag.org From: Wes Ratcliff Subject: [freestyle] Hackman's New Move is Out! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hey, Hackman's new freestyle move is out. I have also changed the main menu around and made it faster loading. :) I'm also in the process of making it compatible with IE and Netscape. If you haven't heard of Hackman before, he's a little guy that shows you how to do freestyle moves ranging from 1 to 3 Adds. I also have a FAQ and some other neat stuff! The address is --> http://www.eatel.net/~ratcliff/ Thanks! Wes From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Wed Jun 4 02:16:52 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id CAA26386 for freestyle-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 02:16:35 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id CAA26375 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 02:16:32 GMT Received: from tuanvu@erols.com () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (26372) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id CAA26370; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 02:16:31 GMT Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [205.252.116.101]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA18900; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 19:17:16 -0700 Received: from tv (spg-as21s20.erols.com [207.172.37.20]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA26302; Tue, 3 Jun 1997 22:17:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3394D311.5C4C@erols.com> Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 22:29:37 -0400 From: 2 HUGE Organization: HUGE PRODUCTIONS X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01KIT (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freestyle@footbag.org CC: northeast@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] The Welcome Back Disco Ninja Jam! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Yes, the amazing Tuan Vu will be back to the Washington D.C. area for a few weeks. And Yes, we are going to have a mad jamm session if anyone is intreasted in shreading! I think our biggest shred days will on the 14th and 15th of June. So if any you freestylers going to be in DC that weekend just give me a call or e-mail me, 2 Huge. I also think the incredible Eric Wulff and upstart Stu Roll will be there. June 14-15th call Tu Vu at (703)503-7231 Thanks, 2 Huge From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Wed Jun 4 15:11:29 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id PAA29197 for freestyle-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 15:11:00 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id PAA29193 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 15:10:57 GMT From: delee@uism.bu.edu Received: from delee@uism.bu.edu () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (29190) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA29188 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 15:10:55 GMT Received: from BU.EDU (BU.EDU [128.197.27.7]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA22089 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 08:11:44 -0700 Received: from uism.bu.edu (UISM-OUT.BU.EDU [128.197.93.52]) by BU.EDU (8.6.13/) with SMTP id LAA15915 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 11:11:37 -0400 Received: from ccMail by uism.bu.edu (SMTPLINK V2.11.01) id AA865447886; Wed, 04 Jun 97 11:11:11 EST Date: Wed, 04 Jun 97 11:11:11 EST Message-Id: <9705048654.AA865447886@uism.bu.edu> To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] move question Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org is there such thing as a torque swirl? From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Wed Jun 4 18:16:34 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id SAA30234 for freestyle-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 18:16:27 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id SAA30230 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 18:16:25 GMT Received: from ratcliff@advtel.net () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (30227) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA30225 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 18:16:24 GMT Received: from noc1.eatel.net (noc1.eatel.net [207.101.8.253]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA23312 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 11:17:16 -0700 Received: from p166 (max2-111.eatel.net [207.101.8.111]) by noc1.eatel.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA09161 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 13:54:19 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970604070512.007c33e0@mail.advtel.net> X-Sender: ratcliff@mail.advtel.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 1997 07:05:12 -0500 To: freestyle@footbag.org From: Wes Ratcliff Subject: [freestyle] Spinning Cross-Body Squeeze! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Has anyone ever tried a Spinning Cross-Body Squeeze yet? If you have, should it be 4 Add (Body, Cross Body, Unusual Surface, Delay)? I haven't tried it yet, though. :( It sounds like a pretty cool move. Later, Wes From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Wed Jun 4 20:14:32 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id UAA30707 for freestyle-outgoing; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 20:14:04 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id UAA30703 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 20:14:02 GMT Received: from nhall@ncsa.uiuc.edu () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (30700) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA30698 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 20:14:01 GMT Received: from ncsa.uiuc.edu (sdgmail.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.103.66]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24083 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 13:14:54 -0700 Received: from void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (void [141.142.103.20]) by ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16273 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 15:15:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from nhall@localhost) by void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.2/8.8.2) id PAA05224; Wed, 4 Jun 1997 15:14:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 1997 15:14:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Nicholas Hall To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: Re: [freestyle] Spinning Cross-Body Squeeze! In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970604070512.007c33e0@mail.advtel.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org On Wed, 4 Jun 1997, Wes Ratcliff wrote: > Has anyone ever tried a Spinning Cross-Body Squeeze yet? If you have, > should it be 4 Add (Body, Cross Body, Unusual Surface, Delay)? I haven't > tried it yet, though. :( It sounds like a pretty cool move. Never tried that (tho it sounds nifty)... Yeah, it should be 4 adds. And if you want to try something similar (and in my opinion easier), try a ducking xbody squeeze. Same 4 adds, but less dizziness. Nick ----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Nick Hall | nhall@ncsa.uiuc.edu | http://hobbes.ncsa.uiuc.edu/nhall | | National Center for Supercomputing App's | University of Illinois | | "You'll hear a lot of people talking about individual freedom- But | | when they see a free individual, boy, they get scared" -Easy Rider | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Thu Jun 5 07:43:31 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id HAA00641 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 07:43:28 GMT Message-Id: <199706050743.HAA00641@eniac.yak.net.taz> From: Paul Vorvick Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 02:38:02 -0500 (CDT) To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] Re: Spinning X-body Squeeze MIME-Version: 1.0 Status: Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hi All, Two Words: Tricia George. Six More: Queen of the Spinning Cross-Body Squeeze Kick On, Paul V. P.S. Please, let's not get into a discussion as to whether "cross-body" should be counted as one word or two. From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Thu Jun 5 13:19:49 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id NAA02583 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 13:19:46 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id NAA02579 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 13:19:44 GMT From: swingert@creighton.edu Received: from swingert@creighton.edu () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (2576) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA02574 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 13:19:43 GMT Received: from mailjay.creighton.edu (mailjay.creighton.edu [147.134.2.15]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA29274 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 06:20:42 -0700 Received: from bluejay.creighton.edu by mailjay.creighton.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA011076837; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 08:20:37 -0500 Received: from localhost by bluejay.creighton.edu with SMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA239006836; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 08:20:36 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 08:20:36 -0500 (CDT) To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] Torque Swirl In-Reply-To: <199706042350.XAA31771@eniac.yak.net.taz> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Delee wrote: > Is there such thing as a swirling torque? About two weeks ago, I was thinking about this very same move and even tried it a few times, but unfortunately, I couldn't hit it. Still, I'm sure it's possible; it just takes lots of experience with butterfly swirls and torques. Sean From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Thu Jun 5 14:04:52 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id OAA02837 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 14:04:50 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id OAA02833 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 14:04:47 GMT Received: from enlightener@footbag.org () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (2830) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA02828 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 14:04:44 GMT Received: from neuman.interaccess.com (neuman.interaccess.com [207.70.126.130]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA29414 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 07:05:44 -0700 Received: from [207.208.2.60] ([207.208.2.60]) by neuman.interaccess.com (8.8.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id JAA24042; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 09:03:36 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: copyset@pop.interaccess.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 09:18:23 -0700 To: 2 HUGE , freestyle@footbag.org From: enlightener@footbag.org (Scott Davidson) Subject: Re: [freestyle] The Welcome Back Disco Ninja Jam! Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hi All! I think our biggest shred days >will on the 14th and 15th of June. So if any you freestylers going >to be in DC that weekend just give me a call or e-mail me, 2 Huge. >I also think the incredible Eric Wulff and upstart Stu Roll will be there. Excuse me, but all those folks should focus their efforts on Midwest Regionals that weekend. Come out and stay with us. We have houses for the homeless and needy footbag players, NO hotels (all booked for conventions). That is where the REAL happenin' is! Eric Wulff is supposed to be at Midwest Regionals, unless he has changed plans. Come on Tuan, come to Chicago!!!!! (Please) :-) See ya! Scott. From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Thu Jun 5 14:04:56 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id OAA02853 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 14:04:54 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id OAA02847 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 14:04:52 GMT Received: from enlightener@footbag.org () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (2841) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA02839 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 14:04:51 GMT Received: from neuman.interaccess.com (neuman.interaccess.com [207.70.126.130]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA29418 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 07:05:50 -0700 Received: from [207.208.2.60] ([207.208.2.60]) by neuman.interaccess.com (8.8.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id JAA24051; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 09:03:39 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: copyset@pop.interaccess.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 09:18:28 -0700 To: Wes Ratcliff , freestyle@footbag.org From: enlightener@footbag.org (Scott Davidson) Subject: Re: [freestyle] Spinning Cross-Body Squeeze! Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hi Wes! >Has anyone ever tried a Spinning Cross-Body Squeeze yet? If you have, >should it be 4 Add (Body, Cross Body, Unusual Surface, Delay)? I haven't >tried it yet, though. :( It sounds like a pretty cool move. Yep. I do it. It is 4 adds in my book. Whether or not the judges would catch it is another story, but definately a dynamic trick, and one of the few 4 add unusual surface tricks. See ya! Scott. From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Thu Jun 5 17:56:18 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id RAA03953 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 17:56:05 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id RAA03949 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 17:56:02 GMT Received: from enrondeau@worldnet.att.net () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (3946) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA03944 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 17:56:02 GMT Received: from mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.33]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA30675 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 10:57:03 -0700 Received: from LOCALNAME ([207.116.105.204]) by mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA19341 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 17:57:01 +0000 X-Sender: enrondeau@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freestyle@footbag.org From: Evan Rondeau Subject: [freestyle] Double around the world Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 17:57:01 +0000 Message-ID: <19970605175659.AAA19341@LOCALNAME> Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Can any one give some hints on hitting double around the worlds. I've heard that it helps to point your toe down for one of the dexteritys but I just don't have the speed yet. From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Thu Jun 5 18:04:46 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id SAA04026 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 18:04:45 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id SAA04022 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 18:04:42 GMT Received: from dervish@juno.com () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (4019) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA04017 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 18:04:41 GMT Received: from x5.boston.juno.com (x5.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.23]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA30747 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 11:05:42 -0700 Received: (from dervish@juno.com) by x5.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id OnS07683; Thu, 05 Jun 1997 14:04:12 EDT To: freestyle@footbag.org Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 14:00:53 -0400 Subject: Re: [freestyle] 4add unusuals (was: Spinning Cross-Body Squeeze!) Message-ID: <19970605.140054.23102.0.dervish@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.22 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,2-16 From: dervish@juno.com (Josh Penney) Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org >Yep. I do it. It is 4 adds in my book. Whether or not the judges >would catch it is another story, but definately a dynamic trick, and one of >the few 4 add unusual surface tricks. If I'm counting them adds, you can be sure I'll give you that credit. Other 4add unusuals: shooting lap-catch sole-osis butterfly-to-heel(or sole) ' aka the "sole train" by Dan Kramer whirl-to sole blender-to-sole drifter to sole (I hit this one [accidentally] two weeks ago - ugh!) There are more- gotta run for now!! JP From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Thu Jun 5 18:38:10 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id SAA04291 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 18:38:04 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id SAA04287 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 18:38:02 GMT Received: from dervish@juno.com () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (4284) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA04282 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 18:38:01 GMT Received: from x5.boston.juno.com (x5.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.23]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA31005 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 11:38:59 -0700 Received: (from dervish@juno.com) by x5.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id O|O07683; Thu, 05 Jun 1997 14:37:58 EDT To: freestyle@footbag.org Cc: delee@uism.bu.edu Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 14:23:50 -0400 Subject: Re: [freestyle] move question Message-ID: <19970605.143423.23102.2.dervish@juno.com> References: <9705048654.AA865447886@uism.bu.edu> <19970604.213025.3286.0.dervish@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.22 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-15,17-19,21,23-26 From: dervish@juno.com (Josh Penney) Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org On Wed, 4 Jun 1997 21:24:55 -0400 dervish writes: >On Wed, 04 Jun 97 11:11:11 EST delee@uism.bu.edu writes: >>is there such thing as a torque swirl? > I said: >Miraging paradox blender, or whirling (or blended ) torque is called >food processor. > I say more: You know, I was just pondering this: the relative difficulty would depend on the direction. Clipper-set miraging dyno is five adds; mirage for one and dyno four. As far as I'm concerned, this is 'torque swirl.' But if I think about it as a blurry blender [paradox inclusive, of course] it becomes six adds. Torque has nothing to do with paradox, because the dexterity is on the initial support leg. but adding one to the other leg, in the supposed 'paradox inducing' direction gives two adds. JP From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Thu Jun 5 18:39:02 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id SAA04310 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 18:39:01 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id SAA04306 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 18:39:00 GMT Received: from brat@footbag.org () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (4303) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA04301 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 18:39:00 GMT Received: from [205.219.91.194] (brat_194.bayarea.net [205.219.91.194]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA31021; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 11:40:01 -0700 X-Sender: brat@market.net (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19970605175659.AAA19341@LOCALNAME> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 11:42:17 -0700 To: Evan Rondeau From: Steve Goldberg Subject: Re: [freestyle] Double around the world Cc: freestyle@footbag.org Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org At 10:57 AM -0700 6/5/97, Evan Rondeau wrote: >Can any one give some hints on hitting double around the worlds. I've heard >that it helps to point your toe down for one of the dexteritys but I just >don't have the speed yet. Evan, have you gotten the videotape, "Tricks of the Trade" yet? Steve From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Thu Jun 5 20:46:10 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id UAA05356 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 20:45:49 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id UAA05352 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 20:45:47 GMT Received: from hill9361@cs.uidaho.edu () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (5349) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA05347 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 20:45:41 GMT Received: from dworshak.cs.uidaho.edu (dworshak.cs.uidaho.edu [129.101.55.177]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA31900; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 13:46:43 -0700 Received: from skull.cs.uidaho.edu (skull.cs.uidaho.edu [129.101.55.108]) by dworshak.cs.uidaho.edu (8.7.5/1.1) with ESMTP id NAA06978; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 13:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (hill9361@localhost) by skull.cs.uidaho.edu (8.7.5/1.0) with SMTP id NAA27927; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 13:46:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: skull.cs.uidaho.edu: hill9361 owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 13:46:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Hillebrand To: Steve Goldberg cc: Evan Rondeau , freestyle@footbag.org Subject: Re: [freestyle] Double around the world In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org > >Can any one give some hints on hitting double around the worlds. I've heard > >that it helps to point your toe down for one of the dexteritys but I just > >don't have the speed yet. > > Evan, have you gotten the videotape, "Tricks of the Trade" yet? "The key is timing, not speed." I'm gonna pretend to be good: Make the first dex a little higher than you would for a single atw. Then make the second circle around a little lower since the footbag can't avoid gravity. I try to make that second dex pretty tight/close to the bag. ______________________________________________________________________ Matt P. Hillebrand hill9361@uidaho.edu http://www.uidaho.edu/~hill9361 hootie AND phish blow From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Fri Jun 6 07:27:26 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id HAA06733 for freestyle-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 07:27:08 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id HAA06715 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 07:27:05 GMT Received: from ratcliff@advtel.net () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (6711) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA06709 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 07:27:04 GMT Received: from noc1.eatel.net (noc1.eatel.net [207.101.8.253]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA03058 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 20:54:53 -0700 Received: from p166 (max2-71.eatel.net [207.101.8.71]) by noc1.eatel.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA00363 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 23:32:17 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970605225429.007c7510@mail.advtel.net> X-Sender: ratcliff@mail.advtel.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Jun 1997 22:54:29 -0500 To: freestyle@footbag.org From: Wes Ratcliff Subject: [freestyle] Highest Add Move Ever Done Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Does anyone know what the highest add move ever hit is. 6? 7? Who did it and what's the name? Just wonderin'. Shred on, Wes From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Fri Jun 6 07:27:39 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id HAA06736 for freestyle-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 07:27:09 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id HAA06723 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 07:27:06 GMT Received: from goalkeepr1@aol.com () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (6718) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA06712 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 07:27:04 GMT From: GoalKeepr1@aol.com Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com (emout10.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.25]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02065 for ; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 17:42:12 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id UAA17037 for freestyle@footbag.org; Thu, 5 Jun 1997 20:42:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 20:42:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970605204111_-730159705@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] Re: Freestyle Digest V1 #168 Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org In a message dated 97-06-05 13:59:21 EDT, you write: << is there such thing as a torque swirl? >> It's a bluury blender. From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Fri Jun 6 16:00:39 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id QAA07875 for freestyle-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 16:00:26 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id QAA07871 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 16:00:25 GMT Received: from proshred@ix.netcom.com () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (7868) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA07866 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 16:00:24 GMT Received: from dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.10]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05926 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 09:01:34 -0700 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA29528 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 11:01:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sjx-ca22-11.ix.netcom.com(204.30.65.107) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma029473; Fri Jun 6 11:00:37 1997 Message-ID: <339836EF.2E78@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 09:12:31 -0700 From: Mike Niday Reply-To: proshred@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: Re: [freestyle] Highest Add Move Ever Done References: <3.0.1.32.19970605225429.007c7510@mail.advtel.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Wes Ratcliff wrote: > > Does anyone know what the highest add move ever hit is. 6? 7? Who did it > and what's the name? Just wonderin'. > Shred on, > Wes Isn't it the Big Apple Sauce ( 7 or 8 ADDS ) hit once by Kenny Shults? Mighty proshred@ix.netcom.com From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Fri Jun 6 20:26:22 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id UAA00222 for freestyle-outgoing; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 20:25:13 GMT Received: from humungis@kode.net () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (8721) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA08719 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 20:07:13 GMT Received: from main.blclinks.net ([206.250.130.2]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA07489 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 13:08:25 -0700 Received: from blclinks.blclinks.net (pm1-18.blclinks.net [206.250.130.33]) by main.blclinks.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA11998 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 12:06:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33986D2D.5D8A@Kode.net> Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 16:03:58 -0400 From: Paul Munger Reply-To: HuMungis@kode.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: Re: [freestyle] Highest Add Move Ever Done References: <3.0.1.32.19970605225429.007c7510@mail.advtel.net> <339836EF.2E78@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Mike Niday wrote: > > Wes Ratcliff wrote: > > > > Does anyone know what the highest add move ever hit is. 6? 7? Who did it > > and what's the name? Just wonderin'. > > Shred on, > > Wes > > Isn't it the Big Apple Sauce ( 7 or 8 ADDS ) hit once by > Kenny Shults? > > Mighty > proshred@ix.netcom.com I do beleive the this distinction would belong to Pete Irish. If i recall he is the ONLY one to ever have hit the Big Apple. I could be wrong and Ken MAY have hit it too, cuz he came up with it. It's 7 adds anyway you slice it though. Wow thats HU-MUNGIS!!!!!!!!hehe Hu-Mungis ps The Tuan guy has prolly hit a 7 adder 2 but u have 2 ask him:) From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Sat Jun 7 00:54:56 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id AAA01560 for freestyle-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 00:54:49 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id AAA01556 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 00:54:47 GMT Received: from shahrayar@aol.com () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (1553) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA01551 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 00:54:45 GMT From: SHAHRAYAR@aol.com Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com (emout10.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.25]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09941 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 17:54:47 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id UAA13266 for freestyle@footbag.org; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 20:54:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 20:54:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970606205445_1923927630@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: Re: [freestyle] Highest Add Move Ever Done Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org ; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 01:36:25 GMT Received: from server.webmaster.com (server.webmaster.com [204.156.143.129]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10160 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 18:36:27 -0700 Received: from tech1.pdq.net ([208.142.200.151]) by server.webmaster.com (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-11487) with ESMTP id AAA288; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 18:36:08 -0700 From: kwiyah@webmaster.com (Jay Merritt) To: , Subject: Re: [freestyle] Highest Add Move Ever Done Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 20:34:18 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19970607013608230.AAA288@tech1.pdq.net> Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org ---------- > From: SHAHRAYAR@aol.com > To: freestyle@footbag.org > Subject: Re: [freestyle] Highest Add Move Ever Done > Date: Friday, June 06, 1997 5:54 PM > > < Shred on, > Wes > > I think it's the nemisis, but I don't think anyone has hit that one yet.... Okay... I'll bite... What's... "The Nemesis"? From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Sat Jun 7 03:37:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id DAA02180 for freestyle-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 03:36:51 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id DAA02176 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 03:36:48 GMT Received: from tuanvu@erols.com () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (2173) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id DAA02171 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 03:36:47 GMT Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [205.252.116.103]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10617 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 20:36:50 -0700 Received: from tv ([205.177.148.173]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA11456; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 23:38:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3398D9AB.49A8@erols.com> Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 23:46:51 -0400 From: 2 HUGE Organization: HUGE PRODUCTIONS X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01KIT (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SHAHRAYAR@aol.com CC: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: Re: [freestyle] Highest Add Move Ever Done References: <970606205445_1923927630@emout10.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org SHAHRAYAR@aol.com wrote: > > < Shred on, > Wes > > I think it's the nemisis, but I don't think anyone has hit that one yet.... Jim and everyone, Nemisis is 6 adds and my brother used tell me he hit at least 5 different 7 add tricks. Because I am dumb, I don't know any of them. A few had dealt with pogo and some didn't. When I see Tuan at the welcome back Disco Ninja Jam I'll ask him. 2 Huge From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Sat Jun 7 05:14:09 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id FAA02466 for freestyle-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 05:14:05 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id FAA02462 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 05:14:03 GMT Received: from dk713994@oak.cats.ohiou.edu () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (2459) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id FAA02457 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 05:14:02 GMT Received: from oak.cats.ohiou.edu (oak.cats.ohiou.edu [132.235.8.44]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA10965 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 22:14:06 -0700 Received: from localhost by oak.cats.ohiou.edu; (5.65v4.0 (EXP 1/13/96 CSC32::C_Jacobson)/1.1.8.2/03Feb95-1128AM) id AA19093; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 00:11:12 -0400 Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 00:11:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Darren Kautz To: "Footbag (freestyle)" Subject: [freestyle] Nemesis Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Nemesis is a barraging barfly--it's only six adds. I believe that Kenny and Tuan have hit 7 and 8 add moves. The experts will let you know for sure. From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Sat Jun 7 07:36:25 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id HAA02810 for freestyle-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 07:36:18 GMT Received: from humungis@kode.net () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (1769) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA01767 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 01:58:56 GMT Received: from main.blclinks.net ([206.250.130.2]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10243 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 18:58:58 -0700 Received: from blclinks.blclinks.net (pm1-16.blclinks.net [206.250.130.31]) by main.blclinks.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA12355 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 1997 17:57:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3398BF52.30FC@Kode.net> Date: Fri, 06 Jun 1997 21:54:26 -0400 From: Paul Munger Reply-To: HuMungis@kode.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: Re: [freestyle] Highest Add Move Ever Done References: <19970607013608230.AAA288@tech1.pdq.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Jay Merritt wrote: > > ---------- > > From: SHAHRAYAR@aol.com > > To: freestyle@footbag.org > > Subject: Re: [freestyle] Highest Add Move Ever Done > > Date: Friday, June 06, 1997 5:54 PM > > > > > > < Shred on, > > Wes > > > > I think it's the nemisis, but I don't think anyone has hit that one > yet.... > > Okay... I'll bite... What's... "The Nemesis"? It's a barraging barfly. quadruple dex. clip-dble in/out dex-dble out/in dex-clip this is also classified as Hu-Mungis If one of u crazy shredders can hit this clean and on video. I'll give ya a free Hu-Mungis bag and a BIG BOW. Hu-Mungis ps If i'm not mistaken this would only be worth 6 adds:( There is no paradox in blurriest so just ad a dex and ad an add. (6) get it? From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Sat Jun 7 07:43:34 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id HAA02839 for freestyle-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 07:43:28 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id HAA02835 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 07:43:27 GMT Received: from dervish@juno.com () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (2832) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA02830 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 07:43:26 GMT Received: from x5.boston.juno.com (x5.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.23]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA11531 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 00:43:31 -0700 Received: (from dervish@juno.com) by x5.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DyC24419; Sat, 07 Jun 1997 03:42:31 EDT To: dk713994@oak.cats.ohiou.edu Cc: freestyle@footbag.org Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 03:34:45 -0400 Subject: Re: [freestyle] Nemesis, or The Eternal Rival... Message-ID: <19970607.033824.3294.1.dervish@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.22 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-6,8-13,16-17,20-24,27 From: dervish@juno.com (Josh Penney) Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org On Sat, 7 Jun 1997 00:11:12 -0400 (EDT) Darren Kautz writes: >Nemesis is a barraging barfly--it's only six adds. I believe that Kenny >and Tuan have hit 7 and 8 add moves. The experts will let you know for >sure. No one has broken the 4-dex barrier. I believe it will eventually be done by Jeremy Nevin, the man who thought of it. Or that's what I have pried loose from Vince. You try getting a straight answer outta that guy. Then there's always shooting ducking paradox symposium whirling twirl. let's call the shoot for two and be nice, one for the quack...then there's the p/s - two more, whirling twirl would have to be five. What's that, ten? I betcha Ryan Mulroney can hit it. Or maybe Steve Goldberg. Go Three-free Steve!!! There was an 80-year-old guy who passed my circle last week, stopped me in the middle of a juggle, and said, "I can do even better when I'm sleeping." Sound familiar? JP ps. Darren is coming to my tournament if he has to sleep in my closet, so if anyone sees him the weekend of June 28-29th you have my express permission to shoot him. From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Sat Jun 7 18:25:58 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id SAA00740 for freestyle-outgoing; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 18:24:50 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id SAA00736 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 18:24:48 GMT Received: from proshred@ix.netcom.com () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (733) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA00731 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 18:24:47 GMT Received: from dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.10]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13922 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 11:24:49 -0700 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA02192 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 1997 13:24:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sjx-ca82-15.ix.netcom.com(207.94.112.79) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma002182; Sat Jun 7 13:24:27 1997 Message-ID: <3399AA2B.3980@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 07 Jun 1997 11:36:27 -0700 From: Mike Niday Reply-To: proshred@ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: Re: [freestyle] Highest Add Move Ever Done References: <3.0.1.32.19970605225429.007c7510@mail.advtel.net> <339836EF.2E78@ix.netcom.com> <33986D2D.5D8A@Kode.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org >> ps The Tuan guy has prolly hit a 7 adder 2 but u have 2 ask him:) According to the Stick Man, Tuan can hit 5 different 7-ADD moves !! He says that when the Ninja can hit *7* different 7-ADD moves, that's the day that Armegeddon will start... Mighty proshred@ix.netcom.com From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Tue Jun 10 16:44:55 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id QAA00546 for freestyle-outgoing; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 16:42:46 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id QAA00542 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 16:42:44 GMT Received: from enrondeau@worldnet.att.net () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (539) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA00537 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 16:42:43 GMT Received: from mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.33]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05039 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 09:42:38 -0700 Received: from LOCALNAME ([207.116.105.247]) by mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA20085 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 16:42:32 +0000 X-Sender: enrondeau@postoffice.worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freestyle@footbag.org From: Evan Rondeau Subject: [freestyle] Name? Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 16:42:32 +0000 Message-ID: <19970610164230.AAA20085@LOCALNAME> Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org What is the name for this trick in-out dex to a wraplike eclipse. maybe it's just considered an eclipse? just curious thanks p.s. thanks all for the double around the world help I've almost got it down pat. From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Tue Jun 10 18:59:50 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id SAA01486 for freestyle-outgoing; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 18:59:48 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id SAA01482 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 18:59:47 GMT Received: from footbagger@hotmail.com () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (1479) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA01477 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 18:59:46 GMT Received: from f21.hotmail.com (F21.hotmail.com [207.82.250.32]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06285 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 11:59:44 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by f21.hotmail.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA10203; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 11:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199706101859.LAA10203@f21.hotmail.com> Received: from 207.155.18.105 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 11:59:42 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.155.18.105] From: "Eric Windsor" To: enrondeau@worldnet.att.net Cc: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: Re: [freestyle] Name? Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 11:59:42 PDT Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org >What is the name for this trick > >in-out dex to a wraplike eclipse. > >maybe it's just considered an eclipse? >just curious thanks > I happen to like this move. I believe what you are reffering to is a pixie-eclipse. The way I did this move is by practicing alot of smears. There are two ways of doing a pixie-eclipse. One is to eclipse with your pixie leg, the other is to eclipse with your non dexterity foot (my favorite way). This move is a pretty cool move, especially in the middle of a run. eric windsor O /|\ o \\ _// ` --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Tue Jun 10 19:03:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id TAA01544 for freestyle-outgoing; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 19:03:42 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id TAA01540 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 19:03:40 GMT Received: from brat@footbag.org () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (1537) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA01535 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 19:03:39 GMT Received: from [205.219.91.194] (brat_194.bayarea.net [205.219.91.194]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06337; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 12:03:38 -0700 X-Sender: brat@market.net (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199706101859.LAA10203@f21.hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 12:06:16 -0700 To: "Eric Windsor" From: Steve Goldberg Subject: Re: [freestyle] Name? Cc: enrondeau@worldnet.att.net, freestyle@footbag.org Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Evan Rondeau wrote: >What is the name for this trick >in-out dex to a wraplike eclipse. Eric replied: >I happen to like this move. I believe what you are reffering to is a >pixie-eclipse. Pixie or not, it's probably a "Lunar Eclipse". Steve From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Tue Jun 10 19:17:13 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id TAA01663 for freestyle-outgoing; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 19:17:12 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id TAA01659 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 19:17:10 GMT Received: from dfogle@mlerf.org () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (1656) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA01654 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 19:17:09 GMT Received: from trib1.trib.net (trib1.trib.net [206.27.194.1]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06534 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 12:17:10 -0700 Received: from mlerf.org (www.mlerf.org [206.27.195.3]) by trib1.trib.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA27061 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 14:17:09 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: [freestyle] Name? Message-Id: <000000199842948815100@mlerf.org> From: dfogle@mlerf.org (Derrick Fogle, MLERF) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 13:18:20 -0600 Organization: MLERF X-Mailer: CommuniGate 2.9 Reply-To: dfogle@mlerf.org (Derrick Fogle, MLERF) Cc: freestyle@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org On Tue, Jun 10, 1997, 2:06:16 PM (US CST) Steve Goldberg wrote: >Evan Rondeau wrote: >>What is the name for this trick >>in-out dex to a wraplike eclipse. C'mon, Steve, aren't you going to thrash this guy for failing to use Job's Notation? You must be getting soft in your old age. There are all sorts of evil variations, too: Paradox lunar eclipse, blurry lunar eclipse, new moon lunar eclipse, you get the idea... Derrick From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Wed Jun 11 04:57:24 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id EAA03946 for freestyle-outgoing; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 04:57:20 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id EAA03942 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 04:57:17 GMT Received: from hill9361@cs.uidaho.edu () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (3939) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id EAA03937 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 04:57:16 GMT Received: from dworshak.cs.uidaho.edu (dworshak.cs.uidaho.edu [129.101.55.177]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA11105 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 21:57:22 -0700 Received: from skull.cs.uidaho.edu (skull.cs.uidaho.edu [129.101.55.108]) by dworshak.cs.uidaho.edu (8.7.5/1.1) with ESMTP id VAA09056 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 21:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (hill9361@localhost) by skull.cs.uidaho.edu (8.7.5/1.0) with SMTP id VAA13745 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 1997 21:57:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: skull.cs.uidaho.edu: hill9361 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 21:57:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Hillebrand To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: Re: [freestyle] Name? In-Reply-To: <199706101859.LAA10203@f21.hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, Eric Windsor wrote: > >What is the name for this trick > > > >in-out dex to a wraplike eclipse. > > > >maybe it's just considered an eclipse? > >just curious thanks > > > > I happen to like this move. I believe what you are reffering to is a > pixie-eclipse. The way I did this move is by practicing alot of smears. > There are two ways of doing a pixie-eclipse. One is to eclipse with > your pixie leg, the other is to eclipse with your non dexterity foot (my > favorite way). This move is a pretty cool move, especially in the > middle of a run. I'm not sure I know what you mean by the second variation here. You do an in-out dex and then, on the opposite foot, a regular eclipse? ______________________________________________________________________ Matt P. Hillebrand hill9361@cs.uidaho.edu http://www.uidaho.edu/~hill9361 From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Wed Jun 11 14:53:00 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id OAA00128 for freestyle-outgoing; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 14:52:21 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id OAA00124 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 14:52:19 GMT From: swingert@creighton.edu Received: from swingert@creighton.edu () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (121) Received: from Market.NET ([140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA00119 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 14:52:17 GMT Received: from mailjay.creighton.edu (mailjay.creighton.edu [147.134.2.15]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14038 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 07:52:16 -0700 Received: from bluejay.creighton.edu by mailjay.creighton.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA285490735; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 09:52:15 -0500 Received: from localhost by bluejay.creighton.edu with SMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA021470730; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 09:52:10 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 09:52:10 -0500 (CDT) To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] Does Anyone Know a Good Knee Stretch? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Lately my left knee has been "popping" when I try left barfly or left Scorpion Tail, and I am wondering if anyone has a good stretch to prevent this... Sean From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Wed Jun 11 15:20:20 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id PAA00392 for freestyle-outgoing; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 15:20:17 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id PAA00388 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 15:20:15 GMT From: crvich@raleigh.ibm.com Received: from crvich@raleigh.ibm.com () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (385) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA00383 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 15:20:15 GMT Received: from socks1.raleigh.ibm.com (socks1.raleigh.ibm.com [204.146.167.124]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA14232 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 08:20:12 -0700 Received: from rtpmail01.raleigh.ibm.com by socks1.raleigh.ibm.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/RTP-FW1.0) id AA29420; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 11:20:01 -0400 Received: from ode1.raleigh.ibm.com (ode1.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.178.164]) by rtpmail01.raleigh.ibm.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/RTP-ral-1.1) with SMTP id LAA36530 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 11:20:02 -0400 Received: by ode1.raleigh.ibm.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03-RAL) id AA28840; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 11:19:59 -0400 Message-Id: <9706111519.AA28840@ode1.raleigh.ibm.com> Subject: [freestyle] Stoker Bars? To: freestyle@footbag.org (Freestyle) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 11:19:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org A professor friend of mine recently switched from Power Bars to something called Stoker Bars (???). Anyone here tried them? He's a runner, so they might be more tuned for endurance as opposed to a fast burn. I use PBs whenever I plan to shred hard, so if there's something better (sans artificial gunk, natch), I'll certainly try it... -- Ernest M. Crvich Have footbag, will shred. From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Thu Jun 12 16:30:39 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id QAA00672 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 16:29:26 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id QAA00668 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 16:29:25 GMT Received: from mike138@capecod.net () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (665) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA00663 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 16:29:24 GMT Received: from mailhost.capecod.net (mailhost.capecod.net [204.255.214.5]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA21605 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 05:39:38 -0700 Received: from default (mar47.capecod.net [205.230.14.47]) by mailhost.capecod.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA29895 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 08:39:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199706121239.IAA29895@mailhost.capecod.net> From: "mkeymont" To: Subject: [freestyle] Movin' on up! Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 08:43:31 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hey folks! I HAD to write and tell someone that I have been learning a new 4 add move everyday! I finally can hit tourque on a semi-regular basis. Also paradox whirl, pixie butterfly and other cool moves that I thought were impossible. Until someone in MA decides to start joining in on my sessions, I'll have to babble to the list about my achievements! "Pain is nothing compared to the feeling of giving in..." Powerade commercial :-) Mike Keymont From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Thu Jun 12 17:50:51 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id RAA01060 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 17:50:35 GMT Received: from eric.burgess@corp.netcom.com () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (982) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA00980 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 17:30:45 GMT Received: from tardis.corp.netcom.com (tardis.corp.netcom.com [199.35.110.2]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23321 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 10:30:47 -0700 Received: by tardis.corp.netcom.com; id KAA09041; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 10:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from admin01.corp.netcom.com(10.0.1.70) by tardis.corp.netcom.com via smap (3.2) id xma008981; Thu, 12 Jun 97 10:30:39 -0700 Received: by admin01.corp.netcom.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.05 (274.9 11-27-1996)) id 882564B4.00608825 ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 10:34:23 -0700 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NETCOM From: Eric Burgess To: freestyle@footbag.org Message-ID: <882564B4.005F615E.00@admin01.corp.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 10:25:33 -0700 Subject: [freestyle] advice wanted Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org i was hoping that some people on the list could give me some advice on hitting an osis. i know how it's supposed to work, (sorta) but am having trouble hitting it. i'm attempting an osis with my right clipper, with the bag starting on the right side of my body. should i try to watch the bag all the way to my foot then turn around? or should i turn in time to see the bag land? or do i just need to practice until i don't have to look? thanks for any help! eric burgess From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Thu Jun 12 18:08:58 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id SAA01157 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 18:08:57 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id SAA01153 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 18:08:54 GMT Received: from brat@footbag.org () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (1150) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA01148 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 18:08:53 GMT Received: from [205.219.91.194] (brat_194.bayarea.net [205.219.91.194]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23635; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 11:08:55 -0700 X-Sender: brat@market.net (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <882564B4.005F615E.00@admin01.corp.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 11:11:28 -0700 To: Eric Burgess From: Steve Goldberg Subject: Re: [freestyle] advice wanted Cc: freestyle@footbag.org Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org At 10:25 AM -0700 6/12/97, Eric Burgess wrote: >i'm attempting an osis with my right clipper, with the >bag starting on the right side of my body. Your first mistake. Start with the bag in *front* of you. Set it from a left toe delay, for example, straight up and not behind you nor too far to your right. Osis is a bit harder if the bag is not travelling straight up and down when you start. >should i try to watch the bag >all the way to my foot then turn around? or should i turn in time to see >the bag land? You want to hop just like with any other delay, timing the catch with the landing, but in this case, the hop will also be a pivot to your left (around 120-180 degrees). Keep your head down and watch the bag contact your right foot (the ankle cranked from the moment you start the move) under your right arm; then keep your head down and as you're hopping/spinning, watch the footbag through your legs and then under your left arm. At the end of osis, always focus on a final PUSH up to get the set out of it. Osis is really a two-part move -- the delay and the set out. Note that the catch actually occurs at the moment you land on the spinning hop; it is not a blind move -- watch it all the way with your head down and your arms out. Resist the temptation to push the bag from side to side with your right leg -- the fact of the matter is that a good osis has almost NO motion side-to-side with the catching leg -- all the work is done by the spin. The right leg simply goes straight up and down in the same area of space as the body spins around it. The rest I just have to show you. :-) Film at 11. Steve From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Thu Jun 12 19:46:24 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id TAA01713 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 19:46:17 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id TAA01709 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 19:46:15 GMT Received: from footbagger@hotmail.com () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (1706) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA01704 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 19:46:14 GMT Received: from f53.hotmail.com (F53.hotmail.com [207.82.250.64]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA24444; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 12:46:16 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by f53.hotmail.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA20263; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 12:45:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199706121945.MAA20263@f53.hotmail.com> Received: from 207.155.18.104 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 12:45:45 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.155.18.104] From: "Eric Windsor" To: brat@footbag.org Cc: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: Re: [freestyle] advice wanted Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 12:45:45 PDT Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org >At 10:25 AM -0700 6/12/97, Eric Burgess wrote: >>i'm attempting an osis with my right clipper, with the >>bag starting on the right side of my body. >Your first mistake. Start with the bag in *front* of you. Set it from a >left toe delay, for example, straight up and not behind you nor too far to >your right. Osis is a bit harder if the bag is not travelling straight up >and down when you start. >>should i try to watch the bag >>all the way to my foot then turn around? or should i turn in time to see >>the bag land? >You want to hop just like with any other delay, timing the catch with the >landing, but in this case, the hop will also be a pivot to your left >(around 120-180 degrees). Keep your head down and watch the bag contact >your right foot (the ankle cranked from the moment you start the move) >under your right arm; then keep your head down and as you're >hopping/spinning, watch the footbag through your legs and then under your >left arm. > >At the end of osis, always focus on a final PUSH up to get the set out of >it. Osis is really a two-part move -- the delay and the set out. Note >that the catch actually occurs at the moment you land on the spinning hop; >it is not a blind move -- watch it all the way with your head down and >your arms out. Resist the temptation to push the bag from side to side >with your right leg -- the fact of the matter is that a good osis has >almost NO motion side-to-side with the catching leg -- all the work is done >by the spin. The right leg simply goes straight up and down in the same >area of space as the body spins around it. You better listen to Steve's advice, cause you just heard it from the man who taught EVERYBODY their first osis. eric windsor --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Thu Jun 12 19:54:21 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id TAA01753 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 19:54:16 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id TAA01749 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 19:54:15 GMT Received: from hill9361@cs.uidaho.edu () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (1746) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA01744 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 19:54:15 GMT Received: from dworshak.cs.uidaho.edu (dworshak.cs.uidaho.edu [129.101.55.177]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA24570 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 12:54:18 -0700 Received: from skull.cs.uidaho.edu (skull.cs.uidaho.edu [129.101.55.108]) by dworshak.cs.uidaho.edu (8.8.5/1.1) with ESMTP id MAA11165 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 12:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (hill9361@localhost) by skull.cs.uidaho.edu (8.8.5/1.0) with SMTP id MAA19767 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 12:54:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: skull.cs.uidaho.edu: hill9361 owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 12:54:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Hillebrand To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] first osis In-Reply-To: <199706121945.MAA20263@f53.hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org > You better listen to Steve's advice, cause you just heard it from the > man who taught EVERYBODY their first osis. Steve, you made up the osis? Wow! Did I ever mention that I thought I made up the osis when I was in high school? I hadn't heard about WFA or Kenny Shults or Rod Lavers. I kicked in hiking boots. I would set the bag to my side and twist the hell outta my ankle and propel the bag around me into a clipper. It's not a real osis, but I truly thought that when you saw someone do that, that it would be because I showed them or because they heard it from me through the grapevine. Heh, I thought *I* was a "pioneer" :) Not. ______________________________________________________________________ Matt P. Hillebrand hill9361@cs.uidaho.edu http://www.uidaho.edu/~hill9361 From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Thu Jun 12 20:51:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id UAA01975 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 20:50:54 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id UAA01971 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 20:50:52 GMT Received: from ratcliff@advtel.net () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (1968) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA01966 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 20:50:46 GMT Received: from noc1.eatel.net (noc1.eatel.net [207.101.8.253]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA25021 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 13:50:49 -0700 Received: from p166 (max4-28.eatel.net [207.101.8.148]) by noc1.eatel.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA13606; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 16:23:00 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970612154324.007cea20@mail.advtel.net> X-Sender: ratcliff@mail.advtel.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 15:43:24 -0500 To: freestyle@footbag.org From: Wes Ratcliff Subject: [freestyle] Hackman's New Move Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hey, Hackman's new freestyle footbag move is out... Also, I have updated the 'Cool Combo of the Month' section. The address is: http://www.eatel.net/~ratcliff/ I will be on the Java Chat tomorrow (Friday) night at 8pm Central time, hope to see you there! Later, Wes From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Thu Jun 12 21:43:24 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id VAA02238 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 21:43:18 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id VAA02234 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 21:43:16 GMT Received: from brat@footbag.org () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (2231) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA02229 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 21:43:16 GMT Received: from [205.219.91.194] (brat_194.bayarea.net [205.219.91.194]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25325 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 14:43:20 -0700 X-Sender: brat@market.net (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <199706121945.MAA20263@f53.hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 14:43:09 -0700 To: freestyle@footbag.org From: Steve Goldberg Subject: Re: [freestyle] first osis Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org At 12:54 PM -0700 6/12/97, Matt Hillebrand wrote: >> You better listen to Steve's advice, cause you just heard it from the >> man who taught EVERYBODY their first osis. > >Steve, you made up the osis? Wow! Woah! No. I didn't make up osis, for the record, in case anyone really thought Matt was serious. (Matt, don't get me in trouble any more than I already am!) Steve From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Thu Jun 12 22:06:47 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id WAA02466 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 22:06:46 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id WAA02462 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 22:06:43 GMT Received: from dfogle@mlerf.org () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (2459) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA02457 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 22:06:42 GMT Received: from trib1.trib.net (trib1.trib.net [206.27.194.1]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25663 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 15:06:45 -0700 Received: from mlerf.org (www.mlerf.org [206.27.195.3]) by trib1.trib.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA19281 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 17:06:38 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: [freestyle] first osis Message-Id: <000000203302948998074@mlerf.org> From: dfogle@mlerf.org (Derrick Fogle, MLERF) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 16:07:54 -0600 Organization: MLERF X-Mailer: CommuniGate 2.9 Reply-To: dfogle@mlerf.org (Derrick Fogle, MLERF) To: freestyle@footbag.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org On Thu, Jun 12, 1997, 4:43:09 PM (US CST) Steve Goldberg wrote: >At 12:54 PM -0700 6/12/97, Matt Hillebrand wrote: >>> You better listen to Steve's advice, cause you just heard it from the >>> man who taught EVERYBODY their first osis. >> >>Steve, you made up the osis? Wow! > >Woah! No. I didn't make up osis, for the record, in case anyone really >thought Matt was serious. (Matt, don't get me in trouble any more than I >already am!) > > Steve No, but Steve is certainly the best manager for it, now that it is here! 8{) Derrick From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Thu Jun 26 22:20:32 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id WAA04254 for freestyle-outgoing; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 22:18:49 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id WAA04242 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 22:18:45 GMT Received: from jma15@cornell.edu () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (4239) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA04237; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 22:18:44 GMT Received: from postoffice.mail.cornell.edu (POSTOFFICE.MAIL.CORNELL.EDU [132.236.56.7]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA23869; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 15:18:47 -0700 Received: from CU-DIALUP.CORNELL.EDU (CU-DIALUP-0062.CIT.CORNELL.EDU [132.236.102.76]) by postoffice.mail.cornell.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA01966; Thu, 26 Jun 1997 18:18:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970626181413.0069a1cc@postoffice4.mail.cornell.edu> X-Sender: jma15@postoffice4.mail.cornell.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) -- [Cornell Modified] Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 18:14:16 -0400 To: freestyle@footbag.org From: "James Meredith Amrine, Jr." Subject: [freestyle] need a ride home from NYC Cc: footbag@footbag.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org I am going to try to attend the competition in NYC this weekend, but I don't have a ride home. I live in Ithaca in the finger lakes region of New York. If anyone from Toronto area or Buffalo is going to the competition, email me asap. My ride there leaves tomorrow at 1:00pm. thanks... Jamey From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Mon Jun 30 14:18:23 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id OAA03167 for freestyle-outgoing; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 14:17:10 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id OAA03163 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 14:17:07 GMT Received: from ratcliff@advtel.net () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (3160) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA03158 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 14:17:06 GMT Received: from noc1.eatel.net (ns1.eatel.net [207.101.8.253]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA11562 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 07:17:13 -0700 Received: from p166 (max2-80.eatel.net [207.101.8.80]) by noc1.eatel.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA19664; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:58:33 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970630091314.007cdd50@mail.advtel.net> X-Sender: ratcliff@mail.advtel.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:13:14 -0500 To: freestyle@footbag.org From: Wes Ratcliff Subject: [freestyle] Hackman's New Move!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org Hey, Hackman's new freestyle move is finally out... I have been working on the page and trying to cut down on the loading time. The address is http://www.eatel.net/~ratcliff/ Shred On, Wes From owner-freestyle@eniac.yak.net Mon Jun 30 14:26:26 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id OAA03196 for freestyle-outgoing; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 14:25:21 GMT Received: (from bin@localhost) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id OAA03192 for freestyle@eniac.yak.net; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 14:25:20 GMT From: swingert@creighton.edu Received: from swingert@creighton.edu () via =-=-=-=-=-= for freestyle@majordomo.footbag.org (3189) Received: from Market.NET (Market.NET [140.174.206.2]) (fnord) by eniac.yak.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA03187 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 14:25:20 GMT Received: from mailjay.creighton.edu (mailjay.creighton.edu [147.134.2.15]) by Market.NET (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11596 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 07:25:27 -0700 Received: from bluejay.creighton.edu by mailjay.creighton.edu with ESMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA083550725; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:25:25 -0500 Received: from localhost by bluejay.creighton.edu with SMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA044290724; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:25:24 -0500 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:25:24 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: swingert@creighton.edu To: freestyle@footbag.org Subject: [freestyle] Homecooked Shred Video Tape Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freestyle@footbag.org If anyone--probably freestyle enthusiasts most--is interested, I just finished "editing" a 2-hour VHS shred tape which is divided into two major parts: 1. 1997 Heartland Regionals Footage, featuring: * The Texas Posse (ie. Ross, Kyle, Ariel, etc.) * Josh Bowen * John Wolf 2. Homecooked Shred, featuring * Brian McKenzie (Mr. Pdx Whirling Swirl) * 12-14 Fest Footage of Scott Davidson * X-Mas Jam Footage * Paul Munger * Greg Nelson * Scott Davidson * Darryl Genz NOTE: This is NOT a Raw Shred quality tape, with fancy wipes and transitions. It has minimal editing, even though there are plenty of excellent strings included by the Best of the Midwest (that would be us pre-BAP upstarts :-) ). So, if anyone is interested, I am offering copies *at cost* for $8. This price includes Fedex 2-day shipping. So, please let me know if you want a copy. It is a great way to add to your footbag video library.... Sean