From owner-sewing@list.footbag.org Fri Dec 10 19:31:27 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA07036 for sewing-outgoing; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 19:31:27 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-sewing@footbag.org using -f Message-ID: <007001bf4387$89466080$fb25a4d8@hlb.cable.rcn.com> From: "MIke Furnari" To: Subject: [sewing] machine and sandbags Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 22:26:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-sewing@footbag.org hey all, i am realllyyy new at this whole sewing thing, i was wondering if anyone here uses a machine to sew their footbags, it is much faster for me, but i make so many mistakes, any tips to help with machine sewn footbags would be appreciated, thanks alot ---Mike From owner-sewing@list.footbag.org Sat Dec 11 05:23:54 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA08573 for sewing-outgoing; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 05:23:54 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-sewing@footbag.org using -f Message-Id: <199912111320.IAA15561@mbs.valinet.com> Reply-To: From: "Daniel Botkin" To: Subject: Re: [sewing] machine and sandbags Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 08:28:45 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sewing@footbag.org Mike, I always thought about it but never could figure out how to get a machine to 1. add requisite tension as you sew 2. turn tight corners and angles with no clearance for manuevering. Also, the stitching of footbags seems to be one of those unique, hand crafted applications which machines cannot (should not?) duplicate. I have seen cheapie 99 cent vinyl models machine stitched and closed by hand. THey suck pretty bad. What kind of probs you having? Need some pointers? Dan Botkin http://www.valinet.com/~dbotkin ---------- > From: MIke Furnari > To: sewing@footbag.org > Subject: [sewing] machine and sandbags > Date: Friday, December 10, 1999 10:26 PM > > hey all, i am realllyyy new at this whole sewing thing, > i was wondering if anyone here uses a machine to sew their footbags, > it is much faster for me, but i make so many mistakes, any tips to help > with > machine sewn footbags would be appreciated, thanks alot > ---Mike From owner-sewing@list.footbag.org Sat Dec 11 08:42:56 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA08682 for sewing-outgoing; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 08:42:56 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-sewing@footbag.org using -f Message-ID: <002801bf43f7$009dfc00$2e528acf@shamanultra2k> From: "Shay Wright" To: Subject: Re: [sewing] machine and sandbags Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 09:44:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-sewing@footbag.org Daniel, How are you? I recognize your name from an old friend of mine, Andrew Bocher. He was my roommate last summer in Denver. Anyway, in regards to what you wrote: Also, the stitching of footbags seems to >be one of those unique, hand crafted applications which machines cannot >(should not?) duplicate. This is a pretty bold statement. Yes, I have seen the .99 cent (p.o.s.) bags which are machine sewn and let me assure you there is a few people who can machine stitch amazing sand and bead bags. Andrew Bocher and Paul Mestas. If your not familiar with Paul Mestas he works out of Co. and is know quite well for his machine bags which he calls Revolution Shred Bags. I myself am a hand stitcher and for a while I thought there was no other way, but, once you have seen some of the bags that Paul is capable of, you will see that it is a skill no longer limited to only hand stitching. Shay Wright From owner-sewing@list.footbag.org Mon Dec 13 16:31:18 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA19838 for sewing-outgoing; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:31:18 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-sewing@footbag.org using -f Message-Id: <199912140028.TAA31110@mbs.valinet.com> Reply-To: From: "Daniel Botkin" To: "Shay Wright" , Subject: Re: [sewing] machine and sandbags Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:36:04 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sewing@footbag.org Shay and list, Cool dude. I am willing to be educated on this subject. Of course I should have imagined it can be done and I look forward to kicking one. What I meant to say is this... There is something intrinsically meditative and harmonious about the hand stitching of custom footbags. This cannot be matched using a machine application. The reason I sew (bags) is no longer mercenary. I have the luxury to enjoy it. I'm sure I'd enjoy machine stitching them as well. On a separate subject... Why is this list so quiet? What are you sewers out there doing? thinking? creating? Anybody wanna talk materials? Polar fleece? Have you tried it? I'm a believer. Nice designs, colors, durable, bouncy. It aint suede, but hey... Who's still alive on this list? Daniel Dog Footbag Peace Initiative http://www.valinet.com/~dbotkin > From: Shay Wright > To: sewing@footbag.org > Subject: Re: [sewing] machine and sandbags > Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 11:44 AM > > Daniel, > How are you? I recognize your name from an old friend of mine, > Andrew Bocher. He was my roommate last summer in Denver. > Anyway, in regards to what you wrote: > > Also, the stitching of footbags seems to > >be one of those unique, hand crafted applications which machines cannot > >(should not?) duplicate. > > This is a pretty bold statement. Yes, I have seen the .99 cent (p.o.s.) > bags which are machine sewn and let me assure you there is a few people who > can machine stitch amazing sand and bead bags. > Andrew Bocher and Paul Mestas. If your not familiar with Paul Mestas he > works out of Co. and is know quite well for his machine bags which he calls > Revolution Shred Bags. > I myself am a hand stitcher and for a while I thought there was no other > way, but, once you have seen some of the bags that Paul is capable of, you > will see that it is a skill no longer limited to only hand stitching. > > Shay Wright From owner-sewing@list.footbag.org Mon Dec 13 20:15:54 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA20382 for sewing-outgoing; Mon, 13 Dec 1999 20:15:54 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-sewing@footbag.org using -f Message-ID: <3855C59A.9AE29E64@sprynet.com> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 21:20:42 -0700 From: David Leberknight X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dbotkin@valinet.com, sewing@footbag.org Subject: Re: [sewing] machine and sandbags References: <199912140028.TAA31110@mbs.valinet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sewing@footbag.org I'm alive! Hey Dan and list :^) I'm preparing to stich my first bunch of bags in some time, as I'm about to embark on a three month y2k adventure,a nd I'm psyched! I can't wait to see a 92 panel bag unfold in front of my very eyes... I love to stich bags while I travel! My wife Paula and I be in Jamaica for the big y2k event, kicking up a storm at a reggae show. Where are you going to be? What about that polar fleece? I'ld like to try some... Has anyone ever figured out yet where to get the really durable facile-like material used in Adidas bags? Have a great winter everyone! -Dave Leberknight Daniel Botkin wrote: > Shay and list, > > Cool dude. I am willing to be educated on this subject. Of course I should > have imagined it can be done and I look forward to kicking one. What I > meant to say is this... > > There is something intrinsically meditative and harmonious about the hand > stitching of custom footbags. This cannot be matched using a machine > application. The reason I sew (bags) is no longer mercenary. I have the > luxury to enjoy it. I'm sure I'd enjoy machine stitching them as well. > > On a separate subject... Why is this list so quiet? What are you sewers out > there doing? thinking? creating? Anybody wanna talk materials? Polar > fleece? Have you tried it? I'm a believer. Nice designs, colors, durable, > bouncy. It aint suede, but hey... > > Who's still alive on this list? > > Daniel Dog > Footbag Peace Initiative > http://www.valinet.com/~dbotkin > > > From: Shay Wright > > To: sewing@footbag.org > > Subject: Re: [sewing] machine and sandbags > > Date: Saturday, December 11, 1999 11:44 AM > > > > Daniel, > > How are you? I recognize your name from an old friend of mine, > > Andrew Bocher. He was my roommate last summer in Denver. > > Anyway, in regards to what you wrote: > > > > Also, the stitching of footbags seems to > > >be one of those unique, hand crafted applications which machines cannot > > >(should not?) duplicate. > > > > This is a pretty bold statement. Yes, I have seen the .99 cent (p.o.s.) > > bags which are machine sewn and let me assure you there is a few people > who > > can machine stitch amazing sand and bead bags. > > Andrew Bocher and Paul Mestas. If your not familiar with Paul Mestas he > > works out of Co. and is know quite well for his machine bags which he > calls > > Revolution Shred Bags. > > I myself am a hand stitcher and for a while I thought there was no other > > way, but, once you have seen some of the bags that Paul is capable of, > you > > will see that it is a skill no longer limited to only hand stitching. > > > > Shay Wright From owner-sewing@list.footbag.org Wed Dec 15 18:38:14 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA22994 for sewing-outgoing; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 18:38:14 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-sewing@footbag.org using -f Message-ID: <19991216023427.73565.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [198.150.50.118] From: "tom labeff" To: sewing@footbag.org Subject: [sewing] IT'S ALIVE!!!! Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 20:34:27 CST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-sewing@footbag.org To all you artists of the cloth! :) Man, it feels really fricken' good to play with a good, personalized hack. Lately i have been pretty slothful with my bag construction, but I sold a quality (practically indestructible) 4-panel footbag to a new footbag enthusiast. I realized I was getting ahead of the horse trying 26-panel without practice. Anywayz, I will continue to sew, and look to you all for your wisdom. I am here, a newbie, but hooked of this thing called footbag....every aspect of it. Obi-Wan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From owner-sewing@list.footbag.org Wed Dec 15 18:54:15 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA23021 for sewing-outgoing; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 18:54:15 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-sewing@footbag.org using -f Message-ID: <004501bf476f$e365ba20$fb25a4d8@hlb.cable.rcn.com> From: "MIke Furnari" To: Subject: [sewing] filler for sandbags Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:47:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-sewing@footbag.org hi again, yes ii love sandbags so.... right now i use that sand stuff theat you use to make those cool bottles. You layer the sand to make a cool design anyone know what i am talking about, well that seems to work preaty good, but what else could i use like, what is used in the ones sold on wfa, thanks alot mike furnari From owner-sewing@list.footbag.org Thu Dec 16 09:55:17 1999 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by list.footbag.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA23852 for sewing-outgoing; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 09:55:17 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: list.footbag.org: majordom set sender to owner-sewing@footbag.org using -f Message-ID: <001801bf47ee$ebc1d300$37528acf@shamanultra2k> From: "Shay Wright" To: Subject: Re: [sewing] machine and sandbags Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 10:56:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-sewing@footbag.org Daniel / list, I would love to hear some new ideas for materials. Currently I am using ultra suede lite which is great, but, every once and a while you'll get a color or batch that breaks down faster than the others. Does anyone know of a way to pre-test ultra suede lite before stitching it? let me know, -Shay